Chili Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Just now, beekay414 said: Why'd we put EQ on IR with an ankle sprain? Too many good WRs and players in other positions to keep. Needed his roster spot. We have plenty of WRs to replace his potential level of production this year. By IR him we have a ready-made replacement for Geronimo when he hits free agency next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 5 minutes ago, Chili said: Did a quick reading: "When a non-vested player (someone with less than four years of experience) gets cut, he is subjected to waivers, which gives every team 24 hours to claim him. The player becomes a free agent if he is not claimed on waivers. When a vested veteran is cut (released) in the preseason, he can immediately sign with any team." This does not apply to Bolton "*Vested veterans can be put directly on injured reserve without being exposed to waivers." This does not apply to Bolton " injured non-vested players must be placed on waivers through the waived/injured designation before being placed on injured reserve. This prevents teams from stashing young players on injured reserve. Once a waived/injured player clears waivers, he reverts to the team's IR." This applies to Bolton "*After a player is waived/injured, the player and the team have five days to agree to an injury settlement. An injury settlement is designed for a team to pay the player for the time he is expected to miss with the injury. If a settlement is reached, the player becomes a free agent and can sign with another team immediately. If a settlement is not reached, the player goes on the team's injured reserve. A player on IR can't be waived until he passes a physical. *In the case of a short-term injury, it's typically in the best interest of both the team and the player to come to an injury agreement. With a settlement, the team can pay a lump sum to cover the weeks the player will miss due to injury and then cut the player. If the player remains on the injured reserve, the team is responsible for paying his salary each week. For the player, a settlement allows him to collect compensation for his injury while also immediately seeking opportunities with other teams. *An injury settlement doesn't automatically occur. If the player suffers a long-term injury, he would have little incentive to pursue an injury settlement. And if a player is in a team's future plans, the team would likely keep the player on injured reserve. Sometimes the sides just can't reach a settlement. In those cases, the player would be placed on injured reserve and likely waived once he passes his physical. *In the past, teams weren't able to re-sign waived/injured players until the injury settlement time period plus six additional weeks passed. But a new rule instituted this preseason has reduced the waiting period to the injury settlement time period plus three additional weeks before a team can re-sign a played that was waived/injured." This might apply to Bolton but I would be surprised if we did this, much more likely we're will attempt to put him on IR. So basically EQ is a veteran which is why we can put him straight on IR but Bolton is a rookie and we cannot do this. We literally had no choice but to waive him unless we put him on the 53 first. I would've done this - seems needlessly risky what the team is doing. Awww I was curious how eq could be put on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chili Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Just now, Norm said: Awww I was curious how eq could be put on. Actually EQ has less than 4 years experience so he should be exposed to waivers before we IR him. Im not sure how we managed to skip that process. Yet for Bolton he has to go through waivers. Confusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, Chili said: Actually EQ has less than 4 years experience so he should be exposed to waivers before we IR him. Im not sure how we managed to skip that process. Yet for Bolton he has to go through waivers. Confusing. By keeping him in the 53 until the first day of the season. Those are only the rules for preseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaRisMa Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 8 minutes ago, Chili said: Its official: So EQ eligible 2nd half of season. McCray traded for undisclosed 2020 pick swap (aka whoever has the higher 7th, we get it). QB Rodgers, Boyle RB Jones, J Williams, D Williams FB Vitale WR Adams, Allison, Valdez-Scantling, Kumerow, Davis, Shepherd, IR St. Brown TE Graham, Lewis, Tonyan, Sternberger LT Bakhtiari, Light LG Taylor, Jenkins C Linsley, Patrick RG Turner, Madison RT Bulaga DL Clark, Lowry, Adams, Lancaster, Keke, Brown LB Z. Smith, Martinez, Burks, P. Smith, Gary, Fackrell, Crawford, Summers CB Alexander, King, T. Williams, Jackson, Brown, Hollman, Sullivan S Amos, Savage, Greene, Redmond, PUP Campbell ST Crosby, Scott, Bradley Cut Fadol Brown to make room for someone who can play ILB. Don't think that problem goes away the way Burks is. Darrius Shepherd and Trevor Davis are the same guy. No need to keep both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevein2012 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 11 minutes ago, beekay414 said: Why'd we put EQ on IR with an ankle sprain? Yeah I dunno about that, doesn't seem like it woulda been a big deal to risk someone like redmond or sullivan to waivers until we sign/IR EQ for 1 day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathstar Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 This is my understanding: we put EQ on IR today. That means he can’t return this year. We waived Bolton so that when he’s healthy he can return, but we don’t have to keep him on the 53 to start the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg C. Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 8 minutes ago, Chili said: Too many good WRs and players in other positions to keep. Needed his roster spot. We have plenty of WRs to replace his potential level of production this year. By IR him we have a ready-made replacement for Geronimo when he hits free agency next year. I think he is eligible to start practicing after week 6 and return in week 8. High ankle sprains can be slow to heal, but if he heals fast I hope to see him playing this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 6 minutes ago, Chili said: Actually EQ has less than 4 years experience so he should be exposed to waivers before we IR him. Im not sure how we managed to skip that process. Yet for Bolton he has to go through waivers. Confusing. Yeah that's what I was thinking right after I posted. Distracted with someone talking in my ear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Just now, deathstar said: This is my understanding: we put EQ on IR today. That means he can’t return this year. We waived Bolton so that when he’s healthy he can return, but we don’t have to keep him on the 53 to start the year. Okay so you can push guys straight to IR? I thought we stopped that to prevent stashing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 I'm still confused. I give up. I'm too dumb. I just found out my Dad is a huge Kumerow fan. He then compared him to Thielen. ******* families man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg C. Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, ChaRisMa said: Darrius Shepherd and Trevor Davis are the same guy. No need to keep both. I've never understood this line of thinking. I've heard it used with other players as well (i.e., Kumerow/Allison). It's not like they are going to be on the field at the same time, and even if they were, why would that be a problem if there were no better players available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chili Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 9 minutes ago, Greg C. said: I think he is eligible to start practicing after week 6 and return in week 8. High ankle sprains can be slow to heal, but if he heals fast I hope to see him playing this season. No he's not. He is out for the entire season without any designation to recall him back. Edit: He has to be on the final 53 and THEN he can be placed on IR in order to be able to recall him back later in the season. It doesn't appear we done this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneTwoSixFive Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 So this is what Packers .com has put up. QB (2): 12 Aaron Rodgers, 8 Tim Boyle Released: 9 DeShone Kizer, 18 Manny Wilkins RB (3): 33 Aaron Jones, 30 Jamaal Williams, 22 Dexter Williams Released: 32 Tra Carson, RB Keith Ford FB (1): 45 Danny Vitale Released: 48 Tommy Bohanon Waived/injured: 46 Malcolm Johnson WR (6): 17 Davante Adams, 83 Marquez Valdes-Scantling, 81 Geronimo Allison, 11 Trevor Davis, 16 Jake Kumerow, 10 Darrius Shepherd Released: 88 Teo Redding, 86 Malik Taylor, 82 J’Mon Moore, 13 Allen Lazard Injured reserve: 19 Equanimeous St. Brown TE (4): 80 Jimmy Graham, 89 Marcedes Lewis, 85 Robert Tonyan, 87 Jace Sternberger Released: 84 Pharaoh McKever, 49 Evan Baylis OL (9): 75 Bryan Bulaga, 69 David Bakhtiari, 65 Lane Taylor, 77 Billy Turner, 63 Corey Linsley, 74 Elgton Jenkins, 62 Lucas Patrick, 70 Alex Light, 61 Cole Madison Released: 71 Anthony Coyle, 72 Gerhard de Beer, 68 Dejon Allen, 73 Yosh Nijman, 57 Adam Pankey Traded: 64 Justin McCray DL (6): 97 Kenny Clark, 94 Dean Lowry, 90 Montravius Adams, 95 Tyler Lancaster, 96 Kingsley Keke, 98 Fadol Brown Released: 79 Deon Simon, 99 James Looney, 67 Olive Sagapolu OLB (4): 55 Za’Darius Smith, 91 Preston Smith, 51 Kyler Fackrell, 52 Rashan Gary Released: 49 James Folston, 56 Randy Ramsey, 59 Markus Jones Traded: 93 Reggie Gilbert PUP: 57 Greg Roberts ILB (4): 50 Blake Martinez, 42 Oren Burks, 54 James Crawford, 44 Ty Summers Released: 58 Brady Sheldon Waived/injured: 40 Curtis Bolton CB (7): 23 Jaire Alexander, 20 Kevin King, 38 Tramon Williams, 37 Josh Jackson, 28 Tony Brown, 29 Ka’dar Hollman, 39 Chandon Sullivan Released: 41 Nydair Rouse, 47 Jocquez Kalili, 24 Jackson Porter, 48 Kabion Ento S (4): 31 Adrian Amos, 26 Darnell Savage, 36 Raven Greene, 25 Will Redmond Released: 34 Tray Matthews, 21 Natrell Jamerson PUP: 35 Ibraheim Campbell Specialists (3): 2 Mason Crosby, 6 JK Scott, 43 Hunter Bradley Released: 7 Sam Ficken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopackgonerd Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 5 minutes ago, Norm said: I'm still confused. I give up. I'm too dumb. I just found out my Dad is a huge Kumerow fan. He then compared him to Thielen. ******* families man Not even comparing him to Jordy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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