Sugashane Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, beardown3231 said: Huge move for the Texans, trading a ton of picks for Tunsil and Stills Tunsil is arguably the game's best LT. Not sure what Miami is trying to do here. I know they got two 1's and a 2 but it won't matter now if you get the best QB in 2020's draft if your OL situation sucks IDK either, you had a top 3 pick pretty well secured, top one could have been had fairly easily IMO. Do they actually hate their QBs? HOU lost Brown to get a better, younger, soon to be very expensive LT. The rest of their OL still blows. MIA had Tunsil and gave a ton of sacks up, Watson still seems doomed. HOU is in shambles. Edited August 31, 2019 by Sugashane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted August 31, 2019 Author Share Posted August 31, 2019 29 minutes ago, beardown3231 said: Huge move for the Texans, trading a ton of picks for Tunsil and Stills Tunsil is arguably the game's best LT. Not sure what Miami is trying to do here. I know they got two 1's and a 2 but it won't matter now if you get the best QB in 2020's draft if your OL situation sucks For record I was banging table for Tunsil in draft. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted August 31, 2019 Author Share Posted August 31, 2019 22 minutes ago, Heinz D. said: I don't get it, either. The Dolphins were unwilling to include Tunsil in a Clowney trade, then turn around and trade him to the Texans anyway. Granted, that's a good return for those two players, but it's still really weird... Actually a good move by Miami. They don't take on an injury prone up and down head case who is going to eat up your cap and get a ton of draft capital to rebuild from scratch to go with what will be a top 3 pick and likely no. 1 overall. Houston coach is coaching for his job and is in win now or be fired mode. He had to do this after Eagles f'd them by jumping them in draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugashane Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 17 minutes ago, dll2000 said: Actually a good move by Miami. They don't take on an injury prone up and down head case who is going to eat up your cap and get a ton of draft capital to rebuild from scratch to go with what will be a top 3 pick and likely no. 1 overall. Houston coach is coaching for his job and is in win now or be fired mode. He had to do this after Eagles f'd them by jumping them in draft. That is still putting a lot of faith in Grier not screwing the pooch with his picks. He must know he has some room to breath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Houston have had a shocker today 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 At the risk of sounding like a Florida fan I would like us to look at both Tabor & Polite...Wisniewski would be a big upgrade over Larsen at C/G...Colquitt would be an upgrade at punter...we badly need to find a decent backup OT as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman(DH23) Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 7 hours ago, Sugashane said: Holy crap HOU got robbed. Mingo is meh and is below Floyd as a pure EDGE, Martin IDK much about but I guess he flashed a bit. Unless Wilson goes down you're also looking at a 3rd rounder that is mid to late 20s at best. I wonder if he is wanting Mack level money, because talent wise- I'd have traded Floyd, a 3rd, and Lynch in a crackhead heartbeat- which is significantly better for HOU talent wise at least. I'd have been talked into a 2nd and Floyd if a deal was pretty easy to work out with him. There has to be something going on, right? It's a guaranteed 1 year rental bc you cant extend him until after the season. That's why the comp is low. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugashane Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Superman(DH23) said: It's a guaranteed 1 year rental bc you cant extend him until after the season. That's why the comp is low. But if he walks from SEA then they will (assuming they don't spend big in FA) get a 3rd round comp pick. Yeah it won't be until the 2021 season but that is cheap for a win-now team any way you slice it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman(DH23) Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 Just now, Sugashane said: But if he walks from SEA then they will (assuming they don't spend big in FA) get a 3rd round comp pick. Yeah it won't be until the 2021 season but that is cheap for a win-now team any way you slice it. Oh yeah it's a great deal for Seattle. Reality is they probably traded 6th round value to get Clowney. But they probably needed him more than anybody. Their defense is now Bobby Wagner and......yeah that was pretty much it. Clowney at least gives them a presence up front. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abstract_thought Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 The Texans had no intention of paying Clowney and knew he would hold out of games. They likely took the best deal available. Biggest blunder of the day was the amount of draft capital they gave up for Tunsil. He's a good player but not a franchise-changer like Mack. And even with him, it's hard to see the Houston competing with a few of the better contenders in the AFC. The Texans are being run with a completely shortsighted approach because their coach is making personnel decisions to try to save his job. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugashane Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, abstract_thought said: The Texans had no intention of paying Clowney and knew he would hold out of games. They likely took the best deal available. Biggest blunder of the day was the amount of draft capital they gave up for Tunsil. He's a good player but not a franchise-changer like Mack. And even with him, it's hard to see the Houston competing with a few of the better contenders in the AFC. The Texans are being run with a completely shortsighted approach because their coach is making personnel decisions to try to save his job. True. MIA's OL was an abortion with him (though clearly it was the other 4 positions), so this only secures one spot. Just wow. Bad day for HOU fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardown3231 Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 Cincinnati waived Malik Jefferson, second year ILB from Texas. I remember going into last year's football season that Jefferson was touted as a freak of nature athlete who'd go top 15. He ended up slipping and now Taylor's putting his footprint on the organization by cutting him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulman Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 4 hours ago, Heinz D. said: I don't get it, either. The Dolphins were unwilling to include Tunsil in a Clowney trade, then turn around and trade him to the Texans anyway. Granted, that's a good return for those two players, but it's still really weird... Clowney didn't want to play in Miami and could have refused to accept the trade by not signing his offer from Houston. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abstract_thought Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 38 minutes ago, beardown3231 said: Cincinnati waived Malik Jefferson, second year ILB from Texas. I remember going into last year's football season that Jefferson was touted as a freak of nature athlete who'd go top 15. He ended up slipping and now Taylor's putting his footprint on the organization by cutting him. I think he'd be a good pickup - athletically similar to Trevathan/Smith and can be a very good special teams player. Cincinatti was not the right place for him. He'd fit much better behind this defensive front. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heinz D. Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 1 hour ago, soulman said: Clowney didn't want to play in Miami and could have refused to accept the trade by not signing his offer from Houston. I read he didn't want to go there, either. I suppose that, if true, he could have drawn a hard line on that... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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