Dome Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Mahomes could literally get hurt at any time. you can’t name a guy that overrated the MVP, sorry. You can’t. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 9 minutes ago, Soggust said: People should be embarrassed for thinking a guy who threw 4tds and 0picks and 440 yards while missing his #1 WR and being banged up from last week is impressive? Because he didn’t spread it out enough over the course of the game for your liking? Because he missed a few throws (out of 44). Because he only completed 68%? reeks of powder blue blinders 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mizter_Clean10 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 34 minutes ago, Bearerofnews said: If chiefs didnt want to score anymore 😂😂 at that notion considering some plumber the week before was scoring easily on their defense... they would of pulled out Mahomes. Raiders defense shut the chiefs offense out 3 quarters. They scored 28 points and yall on here gassing em up. Yall should be embarrassed, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU. God it kills you that the Chiefs are good. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearerofnews Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 20 minutes ago, Soggust said: People should be embarrassed for thinking a guy who threw 4tds and 0picks and 440 yards while missing his #1 WR and being banged up from last week is impressive? Because he didn’t spread it out enough over the course of the game for your liking? Because he missed a few throws (out of 44). Because he only completed 68%? Impressive and unbelievable all time and unstoppable are 2 completely different things. Yes, what Mahomes and Chiefs did in the 2nd quarter was impressive. The other 3, not so much. So yes, 1/4 of the game was very impressive. Not my gripe. Im not wrong.. social media (message boards) have berthed hyperbole-generation. Yall hyperbole'd. I am the reasonable one here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearerofnews Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Mizter_Clean10 said: God it kills you that the Chiefs are good. Chiefs have been good for 4 or 5 years. Doesnt bug me. Bugged me more when Broncos were good. They made superbowls and even won 1. It does bug me that i might be wrong about Mahomes and everyone might be right. That one does bug me. If Mahomes is that dude. Hes gonna be in KC for 10+ years and that could suck. But at his price tag he might have a bad team around him soon. Edited September 16, 2019 by Bearerofnews Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Reed Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 7 minutes ago, Bearerofnews said: Chiefs have been good for 4 or 5 years. Doesnt bug me. Bugged me more when Broncos were good. They made superbowls and even won 1. It does bug me that i might be wrong about Mahomes and everyone might be right. That one does bug me. If Mahomes is that dude. Hes gonna be in KC for 10+ years and that could suck. But at his price tag he might have a bad team around him soon. feel like it's pretty clear by now that he is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dome Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 8 minutes ago, Bearerofnews said: It does bug me that i might be wrong about Mahomes and everyone might be right. That one does bug me. If Mahomes is that dude. You’re literally an entire year late for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dome Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 (edited) 1 Peyton Manning (37) 55 2013 DEN 2 Tom Brady (30) 50 2007 NWE Patrick Mahomes (22) 50 2018 KAN 4 Peyton Manning (28) 49 2004 IND 5 Dan Marino+ (22) 48 1984 MIA 6 Drew Brees (32) 46 2011 NOR 7 Aaron Rodgers (27) 45 2011 GNB 8 Dan Marino+ (24) 44 1986 MIA 9 Drew Brees (33) 43 2012 NOR 10 Matthew Stafford (23) 41 2011 DET Kurt Warner+ (28) 41 1999 STL 12 Andrew Luck (24) 40 2014 IND Aaron Rodgers (32) 40 2016 GNB 14 Tom Brady (34) 39 2011 NWE Drew Brees (34) 39 2013 NOR Daunte Culpepper (27) 39 2004 MIN Brett Favre+ (26) 39 1996 GNB Andrew Luck (28) 39 2018 IND Peyton Manning (38) 39 2014 DEN Aaron Rodgers (28) 39 2012 GNB 21 Brett Favre+ (25) 38 1995 GNB Aaron Rodgers (30) 38 2014 GNB Matt Ryan (31) 38 2016 ATL 24 Drew Brees (37) 37 2016 NOR Peyton Manning (36) 37 2012 DEN Top 25 passing TD seasons. Stafford/Ryan are the only ones who aren’t absolutely dripping with greatness. Though Ryan has shown he can be great. I like Mahomes odds a lot. Those are some good names. Edited September 16, 2019 by Dome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearerofnews Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 22 minutes ago, Dome said: 1 Peyton Manning (37) 55 2013 DEN 2 Tom Brady (30) 50 2007 NWE Patrick Mahomes (22) 50 2018 KAN 4 Peyton Manning (28) 49 2004 IND 5 Dan Marino+ (22) 48 1984 MIA 6 Drew Brees (32) 46 2011 NOR 7 Aaron Rodgers (27) 45 2011 GNB 8 Dan Marino+ (24) 44 1986 MIA 9 Drew Brees (33) 43 2012 NOR 10 Matthew Stafford (23) 41 2011 DET Kurt Warner+ (28) 41 1999 STL 12 Andrew Luck (24) 40 2014 IND Aaron Rodgers (32) 40 2016 GNB 14 Tom Brady (34) 39 2011 NWE Drew Brees (34) 39 2013 NOR Daunte Culpepper (27) 39 2004 MIN Brett Favre+ (26) 39 1996 GNB Andrew Luck (28) 39 2018 IND Peyton Manning (38) 39 2014 DEN Aaron Rodgers (28) 39 2012 GNB 21 Brett Favre+ (25) 38 1995 GNB Aaron Rodgers (30) 38 2014 GNB Matt Ryan (31) 38 2016 ATL 24 Drew Brees (37) 37 2016 NOR Peyton Manning (36) 37 2012 DEN Top 25 passing TD seasons. Stafford/Ryan are the only ones who aren’t absolutely dripping with greatness. Though Ryan has shown he can be great. I like Mahomes odds a lot. Those are some good names. Ehh Culpepper? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dome Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, Bearerofnews said: Ehh Culpepper? If that’s your rebuttal, I think my point stands pretty well. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearerofnews Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 25 minutes ago, Dome said: If that’s your rebuttal, I think my point stands pretty well. 11 guys on the list (not counting Mahomes), by your admission 3 are not great. Thats 27.7% not great. Not a very great stat, js. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dome Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Just now, Bearerofnews said: 11 guys on the list (not counting Mahomes), by your admission 3 are not great. Thats 27.7% not great. Not a very great stat, js. If you wanna break it down by the numbers like that, this leaves us with a 72% chance of Mahomes being an all time great. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearerofnews Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Just now, Dome said: If you wanna break it down by the numbers like that, this leaves us with a 72% chance of Mahomes being an all time great. True. But usually with categorical stats like this, you want atleast a 90% conversion rate of the narrative you are pushing. Not 72%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dome Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bearerofnews said: True. But usually with categorical stats like this, you want atleast a 90% conversion rate of the narrative you are pushing. Not 72%. Well over 90% of QBs never sniffed 50 TDs in a season. Theres one for ya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearerofnews Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Dome said: Well over 90% of QBs never sniffed 50 TDs in a season. Theres one for ya. Thats a better one. Or 5000 yds and 45 plus tds. End of the day though, it is 1 season. Season 2, two games in he is picking up right where he left off. We'll see where it goes as season progresses. I do think Mahomes looks to be legit great. But anyone who denies he benefits from that system, where he is getting so many more WIDE OPEN targets than anyone in the league and there isnt a close 2nd, is lying. It's ok to admit that. Also you won't find someone who overthrows more wide open receivers than Mahomes. Good thing for him is overthrows are fixable. Ive watched every Chiefs game, FULL game since Mahomes has been starter, except 2017 vs Broncos. I think most others are scoreboard watching or watching highlights and not seeing the high amount of wide open overthrows. IT'S a real thing. Sure, it hasnt hurt him from having godly numbers.... that systems helps. What qbs wouldn't ball out throwing to so many wide open guys. Like 6 to 8 yds open. Edited September 17, 2019 by Bearerofnews Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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