AFlaccoSeagulls Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Jackson, Mahomes and Dak right now for me with Russell Wilson being in the top 5 as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 1 minute ago, DoleINGout said: @Matts4313 As for why I think Brady will finish at the top of MVP voting, well... going 19-0 and having a top 10 all-time statistical season in the process helps with the optics of it all. As much as anything else, despite what looks like a banged up offensive line all season long, I think the voters will sort of fall into the trap of a kind of career accomplishment award with Brady this season in MVP voting if the Pats do in fact go undefeated again. the voting is done before the playoffs. So at best he will be 16-0 2 minutes ago, PapaShogun said: I can't believe Dak is in the conversation. Even this early into the season. This seems like Mahomes' award to lose though. The throws he's making appear to be impossible. Then you havent been paying attention. Even last year, after trading for cooper, Dak was top 5-10 in pretty much every single QB stat. He just need at least 1 capable WR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuskieTitan Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, DoleINGout said: Mahomes looks like he has benefited from wide open receivers on big play, YAC, busted coverages as well as several impressive jump ball receptions by his receivers. The Mahomes hype, like the Trevor Lawrence hype, is getting ridiculous. At least Mahomes is in the NFL and playing like a top 5 QB, but as far as MVP race, I think things have been easy in the first two weeks for the reigning MVP. Yes, Brady has faced powerhouse defenses such as the Miami Dolphins that clearly sets him above Mahomes. He also lacks a clear cut #1 receiver due to injury, unlike Mahomes, right? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearerofnews Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 People tend to forget raiders shutout that unstoppable Chiefs offense for 3 quarters, zero points. Yes they exploded in the 2nd qtr. But that offense will not be as good this year. Top 3 right now are Dax, Mahomes and Lamar. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Matts4313 said: the voting is done before the playoffs. So at best he will be 16-0 Then you havent been paying attention. Even last year, after trading for cooper, Dak was top 5-10 in pretty much every single QB stat. He just need at least 1 capable WR. (yawn) Doesn't matter. He won't win the the award anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, Bearerofnews said: People tend to forget raiders shutout that unstoppable Chiefs offense for 3 quarters, zero points. Yes they exploded in the 2nd qtr. But that offense will not be as good this year. Top 3 right now are Dax, Mahomes and Lamar. All Mahomes needs is a quarter to beat you. That's bad. The dude still had 400 plus passing yards, and 4 touchdowns. And last week nutted on the Jaguars defense. Edited September 16, 2019 by PapaShogun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 1 minute ago, PapaShogun said: (yawn) Doesn't matter. He won't win the the award anyway. True. But at least he is in the conversation. Which makes me happy. You'd feel the same way with Jimmy G, right? After all the injury criticism, to get some national recognition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Matts4313 said: True. But at least he is in the conversation. Which makes me happy. You'd feel the same way with Jimmy G, right? After all the injury criticism, to get some national recognition. I guess. I'm just hoping he wins Comeback Player of the Year award. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoleINGout Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, RuskieTitan said: Yes, Brady has faced powerhouse defenses such as the Miami Dolphins that clearly sets him above Mahomes. He also lacks a clear cut #1 receiver due to injury, unlike Mahomes, right? A narrative of lacking a clear cut #1 receiver sounds more impressive than the reality of the first two weeks. Most of the yardage and touchdowns Mahomes has thrown for so far have come, as I said, to either wide open receivers who get YAC, or make contested jump ball catches. The Raiders secondary in it's first week without rookie safety Jonathan Abrams was abysmal; as bad as the Dolphins defending the pass. The Chiefs other opponent, the Jaguars, were unprepared in week 1 just as much as the Steelers were. Also, there was no Antonio Brown playing for the Pats against the Steelers and it is equally impressive how with less than a week Antonio Brown and Brady linked up as they did. Actually watching the first two weeks of either quarterback the quality of play through eight quarters goes to Brady even if the bulk stats accumulated look better for Mahomes. As I said, by the end of the season, Brady will win MVP if the Patriots are undefeated, (beating the Chiefs en route by the way), and his stats and game tape continues to be as impressive as it has been already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamondbull424 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 (edited) I predicted that Lamar could be in this conversation and so far he is. I think his combination between taking the running plays (when given) or the passing plays (when given) will lead the team to a 12-4/13-3 type record and Lamar with a good stat line. If he breaks Mike Vick’s record and Mahomes doesn’t completely go for over 45 TDs again, Lamar has a chance. That said, I think Lamar does break Vick’s record and has a great season, but Mahomes goes over 45 TDs again. Also in the conversation I would have Brady, Dak, Watson, Wilson, and Rodgers. I think Rodgers catches fire especially toward the end of the season (statistically speaking), but this just reminds me of the NBA MVP in the 90s where a whole host of great seasons and great players were stiff armed away by Jordan’s dominance. I see Mahomes repeating with the MVP. Edited September 16, 2019 by diamondbull424 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoleINGout Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 11 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: the voting is done before the playoffs. So at best he will be 16-0 And they will go on to be 19-0 anyways so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, PapaShogun said: I guess. I'm just hoping he wins Comeback Player of the Year award. Sorry to burst your bubble, but AB has the comeback award on lock. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: Sorry to burst your bubble, but AB has the comeback award on lock. Antonio Brown? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 1 minute ago, PapaShogun said: Antonio Brown? Yeah. (its a joke.. I assume you know what he allegedly did) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wackywabbit Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 22 minutes ago, DoleINGout said: Mahomes looks like he has benefited from wide open receivers on big play, YAC, busted coverages as well as several impressive jump ball receptions by his receivers. The Mahomes hype, like the Trevor Lawrence hype, is getting ridiculous. At least Mahomes is in the NFL and playing like a top 5 QB, but as far as MVP race, I think things have been easy in the first two weeks for the reigning MVP. The Mahomes hype is at exactly the right level. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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