mission27 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 I guess those three were all the same year... and some people had Moore over Trout, which was dumb at the time and is obviously dumb in hindsight. I just don't remember him being viewed as a generational talent, just the best pitching prospect in baseball at the time and one of the better ones we'd seen in a while, but not at a Strasburg/Harper or even Price/Wieters level. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mission27 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Tbh I went and read some prospect **** from 2011/2012 to figure out what happened and how Moore was ranked ahead of Harper and Trout by some people, out of curiosity. My working hypothesis is extreme recency bias. In mid-2011 Sweet Spot did this article rankings the top prospects ever. Harper and Trout were both top-20 all time along with guys like Griffey Jr, ARod, Matt Wieters, etc. Moore wasn't on the list and probably wasn't even particularly close to the list. The peak of his entire athletic career happened to coincide with his last 9 starts of 2011 at AAA and then everyone went back into their basements to do prospect lists and overrated the guy, who was obviously a great great prospect, but was no Bryce Harper. I have no doubt at the start of 2012 if the Rays had offered the Angels Matt Moore for Mike Trout, the Angels would've hung up. Just bad prospect rankings by the guys at BA/BP tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramssuperbowl99 Posted December 18, 2017 Author Share Posted December 18, 2017 KILEYYYYYYYYY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewAge Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Sigh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramssuperbowl99 Posted December 18, 2017 Author Share Posted December 18, 2017 Just now, NewAge said: Sigh I know but for those of us who don't have the time to scout and don't work in baseball directly to be affected by what he did, it's hard to be upset about it. He raised the bar for prospect coverage with his org lists and "what makes a hit tool" when he was with Fangraphs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrubes20 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: I know but for those of us who don't have the time to scout and don't work in baseball directly to be affected by what he did, it's hard to be upset about it. He raised the bar for prospect coverage with his org lists and "what makes a hit tool" when he was with Fangraphs. Very pleased for selfish reasons. I don't get to watch nearly as much minor league ball as I used to, and Kiley did a fantastic job before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramssuperbowl99 Posted January 22, 2018 Author Share Posted January 22, 2018 https://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/top-100-mlb-prospects-2018/#ict8Vq0cbLiqtp6A.97 BA's top 100. Ohtani number 2 and Acuna number 1 is a surprise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewAge Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 I stopped reading at around 21. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownieTheElf Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 4 hours ago, NewAge said: I stopped reading at around 21. Was that Hays? Because I’m pretty sure that’s where I stopped as well. Especially considering I think Rodgers is after him. I use to love BAs Top 100 but it’s gone downhill. Who is everyone’s favorite top 100? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewAge Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, BrownieTheElf said: Was that Hays? Because I’m pretty sure that’s where I stopped as well. Especially considering I think Rodgers is after him. I use to love BAs Top 100 but it’s gone downhill. Who is everyone’s favorite top 100? Yes, Hays is 21. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Lol at a lot of the names ahead of Harrison and Burnes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownieTheElf Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Soto and Trammell I feel should be a little higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texansfan713 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Astros still got 4 top 100 prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renndawg37 Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Jays with 2 top 8 prospects....let's goooo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownieTheElf Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 So Law dropped his top 100, anyone have it? Apparently BA gave Vlad Jr 80 Hit Tool and 70 Power. That's pretty nuts because that would be better than Trout and Harper in when they were on top of the lists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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