Kiwibrown Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 1 hour ago, bruceb said: Obviously I am a mear fan and not an NFL football professional talent assessor, but I would take the chance on Becton. Seems his floor is a better than average LT. Especially as a left tackle, just a brickwall for the blindside. If he is humning along well by week 8 our line will be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mind Character Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, Mind Character said: No WRs Top 9; No Derrick Brown Top 9; No Tristan Wirfs Top 9. Players I see going top-9 with a high degree of confidence Joe Burrow, QB LSU Chase Young, DE Ohio State Jeffrey Okudah, CB Ohio State Jedrick Wills Jr., OT Alabama Tua Tagovailoa, QB Alabama Isaiah Simmons, LB Clemson Mekhi Becton, OT Louisville Andrew Thomas, OT Georgia Justin Herbert, QB Oregon How I see the Top 9 Playing Out: Bengals - Joe Burrow, QB LSU Washington - Chase Young, DE Ohio State Lions - Jeffrey Okudah, CB Ohio State Giants - Mekhi Becton, LT Louisville Dolphins - Tua Tagovailoa, QB Alabama Chargers - Jedrick Wills Jr., OT Alabama Panthers - Isaiah Simmons, LB Clemson Cardinals - Andrew Thomas, OT Georgia Jaguars - Justin Herbert, QB Oregon Browns - ????? This is how it is likely going to play out. It's going to be a shame when all the fan masses lulled to sleep by the Wirfs the Combine Uber Athlete Iowa OLine Factory OT1 propaganda will be jubilant and in bliss as they glad hand each other with "we got our Tackle for years to come" comments knowing not what they speak or what is to come. Derrick Brown, Tristan Wirfs, Jerry Jeudy, CeeDee Lamb, and Javon Kinlaw will be the premium persons still on the board. In a perfect world, the Browns catch Trade-Down madness and get wild. More likely though they'll take their gamble on WIrfs or gamble on interior pass rush production from Derrick Brown or Javon Kinlaw. The knee concerns and tendinitis from Kinlaw at such a young age makes that too much of a risky selection. We've seen how knee issues can spiral down a career in short order (Todd Gurley). Derrick Brown might not offer enough interior pass rush or pocket disruption to legitimize the pick based on positional value. CeeDee Lamb and Jerry Jeudy won't likely be selected. So, who do we target in a trade down? To me, the Browns will trade down and target Austin Jackson, LT USC in the mid-20s, or in a shocker signaling that they will be moving to Joe Woods' preferred 34-scheme the next year they'll target K'Lavon Chaisson, 34OLB LSU. The latter would make me ill; the former could end up becoming an all-pro by year 3 or 4. Overall, it makes me think one thing: Andrew Berry is going to aggressively trade up to get his guy whether that be Wills, Becton, or Thomas. Edited March 27, 2020 by Mind Character Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie man Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 @Mind Character i think your just preparing yourself for a worst case scenario that’s not going to happen the Chargers are going to draft a QB and a Jacksonville won’t take a tackle no way in hell Chargers go into 2020 with just Tyrod that’s not going to happen 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mind Character Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 12 minutes ago, brownie man said: @Mind Character i think your just preparing yourself for a worst case scenario that’s not going to happen the Chargers are going to draft a QB and a Jacksonville won’t take a tackle no way in hell Chargers go into 2020 with just Tyrod that’s not going to happen There's a lot of smoke from all kinds of lesser known behind the scenes and well-known public draftnik scouting figures (i.e., Daniel Jeremiah) that suggests that the Chargers do not see Justin Herbert as a top 10 QB1, and that they are Tua or bust. If that's true, that means they are taking a Tackle or they are taking Isaiah Simmons in my mock scenario. There's also the chance that they trade down with the Browns given Andrew Berry and Tom Telesco's close working relationship and friendship. It doesn't seem to make sense now, but I'm telling you some of the QB needy teams are going to be angling for 1 of Trey Lance, Trevor Lawrence, or Justin Fields as primary options with Jamie Newman and D'Eriq King being highly regarded but less valued relative to Lawrence, Fields, and Lance. Tom Telesco marches to the beat of his own drum. Everyone is thinking they have to take a QB, but he's the type that he's not going to spend a pick on a guy he doesn't believe in. Justin Herbert is not not everyone's cup of tea much like Josh Allen and Josh Rosen before. Jameis Winson, Cam Newton, and potentially Andy Dalton are still out there. There's a lot of time (maybe even more than we know currently) between now, the draft, and the start of the season. The Chargers have a wide variety of options. With the Jaguars moving Cam Robinson to Guard as has been expected, there's no better time to take a Tackle. It is my worst case scenario, but I honestly think it's more likely than not at this point, especially if Telesco isn't all in on Herbert as his Franchise QB. He doesn't want to get Trubisky'd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HH650 Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 A Question for MC or others Greetings to all. I have closely followed all NFL and AFL drafts since 1965 and have always enjoyed the drama, risks, good moves and inexplicable stupidity which can come in it. Almost every year, some team will make an Early first round foolish choice from seemingly out of the blue. Examples include Tyson Alualu, Leroy Keyes and many, many other names which were drafted earlier in the round than Manziel. So my question this year is who will do it and when in the first round. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceb Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 Unless the plan is to fortify the right side of the OL and snare an eventual LT later in the draft even if we pick up Peters or Williams, this is disturbing: https://brownswire.usatoday.com/2020/03/27/browns-will-have-a-virtual-visit-with-top-ot-prospect-tristan-wirfs/ Anyone else seeing talk of virtual visits with any other prospects? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reginaldm9 Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 17 minutes ago, bruceb said: Unless the plan is to fortify the right side of the OL and snare an eventual LT later in the draft even if we pick up Peters or Williams, this is disturbing: https://brownswire.usatoday.com/2020/03/27/browns-will-have-a-virtual-visit-with-top-ot-prospect-tristan-wirfs/ Anyone else seeing talk of virtual visits with any other prospects? There’s a public health crisis going on. This is the best option they have. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie man Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 21 minutes ago, bruceb said: Unless the plan is to fortify the right side of the OL and snare an eventual LT later in the draft even if we pick up Peters or Williams, this is disturbing: https://brownswire.usatoday.com/2020/03/27/browns-will-have-a-virtual-visit-with-top-ot-prospect-tristan-wirfs/ Anyone else seeing talk of virtual visits with any other prospects? All the clubs bettter be doing this the Nfl should have it set up where the calls are timed and players sign into a network where the talks can be monitored. Teams are given a certain amout of talks and they’re all timed and enforced. I can’t believe the league won’t set something like that up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted March 27, 2020 Author Share Posted March 27, 2020 27 minutes ago, bruceb said: Unless the plan is to fortify the right side of the OL and snare an eventual LT later in the draft even if we pick up Peters or Williams, this is disturbing: https://brownswire.usatoday.com/2020/03/27/browns-will-have-a-virtual-visit-with-top-ot-prospect-tristan-wirfs/ Anyone else seeing talk of virtual visits with any other prospects? This is smart given the circumstances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawgX Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 5 hours ago, brownie man said: @Mind Character i think your just preparing yourself for a worst case scenario that’s not going to happen the Chargers are going to draft a QB and a Jacksonville won’t take a tackle no way in hell Chargers go into 2020 with just Tyrod that’s not going to happen LAC probably either goes QB or OT. Jacksonville will very much be in play for an OT as I'm pretty certain they're going to give Minshew the chance to be their starter this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceb Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 35 minutes ago, Reginaldm9 said: There’s a public health crisis going on. This is the best option they have. I was referring to the interest in Wirfs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted March 28, 2020 Author Share Posted March 28, 2020 I want to like Alex Highsmith, but he needs to get stronger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownsDog23 Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 I think there’s a decent chance Jax takes a WR at 9, they don’t have a true #1 and Jeudy/Lamb will arguably be BPA at spot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateDawg Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 I hope our nerds aren’t as devastated at the thought of picking someone other than a tackle as some on our board. IDGAF if five OTs go before us. Just means more great players are there at 10, for a team with no shortage of holes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted March 28, 2020 Author Share Posted March 28, 2020 Since Carroll took over for Seattle, they’ve always traded down in the first round. If we wanted to, we could trade a 2nd and 3rd for their 1st + 4th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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