Mind Character Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 3 hours ago, BleedTheClock said: Grant Delpit is an elite cover safety. I know he missed some tackles this season, but the dude is a stud in coverage. He can blanket TEs and even cover traditional WRs in roll down man-man situations. Plus he has elite ball skills, size, and speed. His breaks on the ball for his size is unreal. If Delpit were there in the 2nd, you have to take him. Plus us moving to more of a man scheme means less space tackling for the DB’s, theoretically. 2 hours ago, MSURacerDT55 said: If that's his guy, that's his guy. None of us know for sure on any of these guys With what he can do on the back end, the elite instincts and ball hawking. I could stomach his supposed tackling issues in a heart beat.... What are yall smokin on man .. Delpit is fun to watch because he's an urgent athlete with energy and all his movements seem to be purposeful and forceful. However, I don't know what yall were watchin but he's cheeks in coverage too and doesn't range well or make sound coverage decisions as cover safety. A plus leader with Box short area coverage ability when he guesses right, but he often doesn't. He got smoked on the regular this year and last in coverage when asked to cover routes outside of 5-7 yards. It's because of his amazing urgent movement and competitive fire that when he does guess right and make a play it's to highlight reel effect. He's not FS. So, he's a SS with box run support and angles deficiencies. And Tight End coverage ability but gets exposed when asked to cover anything else. I love the leadership... I love the urgency... the competitive fire is off the charts... the short area coverage ability against Tight Ends is great.. all other decision making and feel for pass coverage and run support is buttcheeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mind Character Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, Kiwibrown said: Or jedrick willis or whoever is the best or 2nd best lt? Trading a 2nd round pick up for even Jedrick Wills who is my favorite player is still a little wild. Did you mean trading our 2nd, 3rd round pick or a 3rd? Then, sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mind Character said: Trading a 2nd round pick up for even Jedrick Wills who is my favorite player is still a little wild. Did you mean trading our 2nd, 3rd round pick or a 3rd? Then, sure. Our 2nd 3rd would take us to 8 or 9 at best wouldn't it? They dont go far at thebtop of the draft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mind Character Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 On 3/28/2020 at 4:05 PM, Mind Character said: Toward Finalization Vertical Stack Board of Browns-Specific Players I Believe In: ------------------------------------------------ 1st Round -- No. 10 Overall Jedrick Wills Jr., OT Alabama Jeffrey Okudah, CB Ohio State Mekhi Becton, OT Louisville Trade Down Isaiah Simmons, LB Clemson Andrew Thomas, OT Georgia Derrick Brown, NT Auburn Fool's Gold at 10; Stay Away Tristan Wirfs, OG Iowa (If Intention is to Use Exclusively at Left Tackle) Javon Kinlaw, DT South Carolina (Love Him, but Serious Medical Concerns) K'Lavon Chaisson, 34-OLB LSU (He's a 34-OLB Exclusively imo) ------------------------------------------------ 2nd Round -- No. 41 Overall Denzel Mims, WR Baylor Antoine Winfield Jr., SS Minnesota Jeff Gladney, CB TCU Cole Kmet, TE Notre Dame Michael Pittman Jr., WR USC Austin Jackson, LT USC D'Andre Swift, RB Georgia Jonathan Taylor, RB Wisconsin Kristian Fulton, CB LSU Trevon Diggs, CB Alabama Laviska Shenault Jr., WR Colorado Netane Muti, OG Fresno St. Kenneth Murray, LB Oklahoma St. Willie Gay Jr., LB Miss. St. Robert Hunt, OG/OT Louisiana-Lafayette Yetur Gross-Matos, DE Penn State Troy Dye, LB Oregon Jack Driscoll, OT Auburn Daishawn Dixon, OG/OC San Diego St. Jalen Reagor, WR TCU Julian Okwara, DE Notre Dame Fool's Gold at 41; Stay Away: Grant Delpit, S LSU Ashtyn Davis, FS California Jeremy Chinn, S Southern Illinois Jordyn Brooks, LB Texas Tech ----------------------------------------------- 3rd Round -- No. 74 Overall Robert Hunt, OG/OT Louisiana-Lafayette Troy Dye, LB Oregon Jack Driscoll, OT Auburn Daishawn Dixon, OG/OC San Diego St. Jalen Reagor, WR TCU Julian Okwara, DE Notre Dame Tony Brown, WR Colorado JK Dobbins, RB Ohio State Shane Lemieux, OG Oregon Fool's Gold at 74; Stay Away: Grant Delpit, S LSU Ashtyn Davis, FS California Jeremy Chinn, S Southern Illinois Jordyn Brooks, LB Texas Tech ----------------------------------------------- 3rd Round -- No. 97 Overall Robert Hunt, OG/OT Louisiana-Lafayette Troy Dye, LB Oregon Jack Driscoll, OT Auburn Daishawn Dixon, OG/OC San Diego St. Prince Tega-Wanogho, OT Auburn Julian Okwara, DE Notre Dame Tony Brown, WR Colorado Shane Lemieux, OG Oregon ----------------------------------------------- 4th Round -- No. 115 Overall Tony Brown, WR Colorado Kevin Dotson, OG Louisiana-Lafayette Josiah Scott, CB Michigan State Cohl Cabral, OC Arizona State Matt Peart, OT UConn Zack Moss, RB Utah Bralee Anae, 34-OLB Utah (Will Try at DE in the 4th) Amik Robertson, NCB La. Tech Prince Tega-Wanogho, OT Auburn Chase Claypool, TE-Convert Only Notre Dame Bryan Edwards, WR South Carolina Logan Wilson, LB Wyoming ------------------------------------------ 6th Round -- No. 187 Overall Tony Brown, WR Colorado Cohl Cabral, OC Arizona State Amik Robertson, NCB La. Tech Lynn Bowden Jr., WR Memphis Logan Wilson, LB Wyoming Davion Taylor, LB Colorado Joe Reed, WR/KR/PR Virgina Antoine Brooks Jr., S Maryland Thaddeus Moss, TE LSU Kendrick Rogers, WR TAMU Devin Asiasi, TE UCLA Rashad Robinson II, CB Auburn Myles Dorn, S North Carolina AJ Green, CB Oklahoma St. Kindle Vildor CB Georgia Southern Rashard Lawrence, DT LSU Josiah Deguara, HB Cincinnati Darnay Holmes, NCB UCLA Noah Igbinoghene, NCB Auburn ------------------------------------------ 7th Round -- No. 244 Overall Trajan Bandy, NCB Miami Derrek Tuszka, DE NDSU Rico Dowdle, RB South Carolina John Hightower, WR Boise State Brandon Jones, S Texas Jalen Elliot, S Notre Dame Mykal Walker, LB Fresno St. Nevell Clark, CB UCF Monday Mock Draft: Bengals -- Joe Burrow, QB LSU Washington -- Chase Young, DE Ohio State Dolphins (via Lions) -- Tua Tagovailoa, QB Alabama Giants -- Mekhi Becton, OT Louisville Lions (via Dolphins) -- Jeffrey Okudah, CB Ohio State Chargers -- Jedrick Wills Jr., OT Alabama Panthers -- Isaiah Simmons, LB Clemson Cardinals -- Andrew Thomas, OT Georgia Jaguars -- Justin Herbert, QB Oregon Browns -- Tristan Wirfs, OG Iowa 2(41) [May Require Trade-Up] -- Austin Jackson, LT USC 3(74) [May Require Trade-Up] -- Antoine Winfield Jr., SS Minnesota 3(97) -- Troy Dye, LB Oregon 4(115) -- Zack Moss, RB Utah 6(187) -- Tony Brown, WR Colorado 7(244) -- Kindle Vildor, CB Georgia Southern // Amik Robertson, NCB La. Tech // Josiah Scott, CB Michigan State // Cohl Cabral, OC Arizona State 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 11 minutes ago, Mind Character said: Browns -- Tristan Wirfs, OG Iowa 2(41) [May Require Trade-Up] -- Austin Jackson, LT USC 3(74) [May Require Trade-Up] -- Antoine Winfield Jr., SS Minnesota 3(97) -- Troy Dye, LB Oregon 4(115) -- Zack Moss, RB Utah I’d be thrilled with this tbh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSURacerDT55 Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 2 hours ago, buno67 said: I be more concerned on why Delpit absolutely stopped wanting to tackle. Dude was better 2 seasons ago. Why the drop off? The same could said about Greedy Williams, tbh, maybe he could have been preserving himself knowing he was goingto declare.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSURacerDT55 Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 @Mind Character whats your beef with Jeremy Chinn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 18 minutes ago, MSURacerDT55 said: The same could said about Greedy Williams, tbh, maybe he could have been preserving himself knowing he was goingto declare.... From what I remember Greedy was always a lazy tackler. Delpit in ‘18 was prolly the best safety in the nation/defensive back. Last he wanted even tho he won the Thorpe, which he had no reason to win over Okaduh. ‘19 Delpit was a different player and wasn’t the best defensive back on his team imo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 48 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: 1 hour ago, Mind Character said: Browns -- Tristan Wirfs, OG Iowa 2(41) [May Require Trade-Up] -- Austin Jackson, LT USC 3(74) [May Require Trade-Up] -- Antoine Winfield Jr., SS Minnesota 3(97) -- Troy Dye, LB Oregon 4(115) -- Zack Moss, RB Utah I’d be thrilled with this tbh. I am not a fan of Wirfs but if they walked away with him and Jackson (stuff I have read said he might be the best ZBS tackle in the draft) I would be happy. Bit would help Jackson and Conklin and Wirfs would dominate 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 I wouldn’t be surprised to see teams wanting to trade out of this draft after the second round this year. Listening to the radio today and hearing them talk about being unsure about medicals and not having a chance to work guys out, that some front offices might not feel comfortable making some picks. If you draft a dude in the third or fourth round who won’t get medically cleared, it could cost you your job as a GM or in a scouting department. We might see some major whiffs and some major steals from this draft. Heck, it could get even crazier if they cancel next college football season and a lot of guys plan to enter supplement draft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mind Character Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 29 minutes ago, MSURacerDT55 said: @Mind Character whats your beef with Jeremy Chinn? Smooth, high quartile timed athlete. Ultimately, I'm not a fan of Safeties that don't exhibit instinctual play, one's that have a slow mental trigger, and/or shy away from physicality. He doesn't play with the dog in 'em or internal fire that I think all SS require (FS as well). I'm cool with a Safety not having that type of outward fire play personality as long as the Safety is instinctual. I don't see Chinn as having those critical play traits from the outside looking in. He's a lot like Obi Melifonwu. Body beautiful, high quartile athlete, big potential, and play trait deficiencies. I have no clue what type of person or competitor Chinn is b/c it doesn't come through in his play on the field, but maybe in interviews and scouting works he's a real dude. In that event, maybe it makes sense to bet on the plus athletic ability later in the draft. Instinctual, Grit, Toughness, Urgent Athlete, Fluid Mover, Quick Processor & Mental Trigger, and Ability to Consistently Get Guys on the Ground. Antoine Winfield Jr. has all those abilities. Jeremy Chinn lacks many. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceb Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 1 hour ago, buno67 said: I am not a fan of Wirfs but if they walked away with him and Jackson (stuff I have read said he might be the best ZBS tackle in the draft) I would be happy. Bit would help Jackson and Conklin and Wirfs would dominate Me, neither. But this could work very well for us by 2021. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie man Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 2 hours ago, buno67 said: I am not a fan of Wirfs but if they walked away with him and Jackson (stuff I have read said he might be the best ZBS tackle in the draft) I would be happy. Bit would help Jackson and Conklin and Wirfs would dominate But do we really take a guard in the top 10??? that just sounds like overreaching to me. He wouldn’t move over to tackle for at least 3 years with Conklins deals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceb Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, brownie man said: But do we really take a guard in the top 10??? Why not if he can be McGlinchey good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie man Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 1 minute ago, bruceb said: Why not if he can be McGlinchey good? Mike is SFs right tackle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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