acowboys62 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 1 minute ago, PapaShogun said: Dallas has an elite line. Replace the runner, and pay the QB. Dallas has an elite line, just paid an elite RB and can still pay the QB...why replace him when you can pay all of them? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, acowboys62 said: Dallas has an elite line, just paid an elite RB and can still pay the QB...why replace him when you can pay all of them? So that you have money later to spend on other areas of need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Live look at Zeke celebrating the new contract: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raves Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, PapaShogun said: Dallas has an elite line. Replace the runner, and pay the QB. You mean the QB that needed them to trade for a WR and still needs to have Zeke have good games for them to win? If Dak was a better QB, sure... but you probably wouldn't see much, if any, dropoff with Mariotta or Winston as the QB for Dallas. Losing Zeke would've made a much larger difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 7 minutes ago, PapaShogun said: Dallas has an elite line. Replace the runner, and pay the QB. 6 minutes ago, acowboys62 said: Dallas has an elite line, just paid an elite RB and can still pay the QB...why replace him when you can pay all of them? Until proven otherwise, Dallas does *NOT* have an elite OL. Havent in 3 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 32 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: Jerry didnt cave the first time. Emmitt did. Lets wait to see the contract details before making assumptions. This article written at the time seems to dispute that https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs-xpm-1993-09-17-1993260192-story.html Dallas was 0-2. Smith had all the leverage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, Raves said: You mean the QB that needed them to trade for a WR and still needs to have Zeke have good games for them to win? If Dak was a better QB, sure... but you probably wouldn't see much, if any, dropoff with Mariotta or Winston as the QB for Dallas. Losing Zeke would've made a much larger difference. Then let both walk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art_Vandalay Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 36 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: lmao You dont even know the structure of the deal. And if we come back paying Dak/Cooper top money - then who do we value? Silly take. A RB with with two years left on his deal who was already getting paid like a top RB got prioritized over a QB with one year left who's making pennies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: Until proven otherwise, Dallas does *NOT* have an elite OL. Havent in 3 years. What's the problem with their line that doesn't make them one of the better units? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, PapaShogun said: This article written at the time seems to dispute that https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs-xpm-1993-09-17-1993260192-story.html Dallas was 0-2. Smith had all the leverage. https://sports.yahoo.com/cowboys-didn-t-cave-1993-000104424.html Quote There’s a common misconception, one that I’ve perpetuated a time or two, that the Cowboys are likely to cave in the Ezekiel Elliott holdout because they caved in the 1993 Emmitt Smith holdout. As PFT’s Charean Williams explained last week on PFT Live and mentioned in a Wednesday item on the Elliott holdout, the Cowboys didn’t cave on Emmitt. It was Emmitt who abandoned his demand for quarterback money after two regular-season games in 1993, accepting an offer that made him the highest-paid running back in football. The Cowboys played the first two games of the 1993 season without Emmitt Smith, going 0-2. But they never backed down. Instead, Smith agreed to the deal that made him the highest-paid running back in football at the time but didn’t pay him the quarterback money he wanted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Art_Vandalay said: A RB with with two years left on his deal who was already getting paid like a top RB got prioritized over a QB with one year left who's making pennies. One was holding out. The other isnt. And you have absolutely no idea which one is considered higher priority. IF you are just going by which one got done first, then La'el Collins > > > Zeke - Right? Its a silly take. 1 minute ago, PapaShogun said: What's the problem with their line that doesn't make them one of the better units? They havent played well since 2016. Mostly due to coaching (on our 3rd OL coach) and injuries, but still. They should be elite on paper. But they have been ranked bottom 5-10 in passblocking depending which analytical site you prefer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: https://sports.yahoo.com/cowboys-didn-t-cave-1993-000104424.html Jerry still caved if his claim that he wasn't going to pay Smith as much as Thurman Thomas was true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Raves Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, Art_Vandalay said: A RB with with two years left on his deal who was already getting paid like a top RB got prioritized over a QB with one year left who's making pennies. Well Dallas kind of screwed themselves with Zeke by talking about paying him Gurley money too early from the sounds of it leading Zeke to believe the deal would happen this offseason and then the holdout. Also I would take a Cousins-ish stance with Dak having him prove that he is worth being paid more than what they already offered him before cutting the check. At worst they can franchise him for an extra year if he doesn't take the next step this year but was still good, at worst they end up having to back up a second truck load of money due to a breakout season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raves Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: Agreed. The only number that really matters on Zeke's deal is the $50 mil guaranteed. With the way the RB position is, Zeke will get his guaranteed money during his prime years before he starts to fall off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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