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Chiefs @ Jags WEEK ONE GDT

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34 minutes ago, Chiefs_5627 said:

Found pretty good explanation for the curious folks, like me, who has no idea what the Hill injury is:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.arrowheadpride.com/platform/amp/2019/9/8/20856145/rapid-injury-analysis-making-sense-of-tyreek-hills-sc-joint-dislocation

That Ravens game is huge without him in it.

Hopefully hes okay by the Colts game

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11 hours ago, kingseanjohn said:

So a "few weeks" for Hill isn't ideal, but it could be worse.

It looks like he'll miss @Raiders, Ravens, @Lions and then back for either Colts or Texans.

 

9 hours ago, chiefs82 said:

Only one that would worry me is the ravens game if he misses that. 

Don't sleep on the Lions either. They have a top 10 CB who could slow down Watkins (though Ramsey / Bouye couldn't so maybe not) and a good run stiffing DL. 

Anyhow putting 40+ points over what is supposed to be one of the best defense in the NFL shows we're still one of (probably the) best O in the league. Our defense looked meh vs a backup QB behind a patchwork OL though so that's not totally reassuring. 

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Sammy Watkins earned the balance of last year's contract and a lot of money next year. What a monster.

J

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14 hours ago, mayanfootball said:

I'm not a fan of zone defense. NFL QB's are adept at recognizing and exploiting zone Pass Defense.

There is some truth to this, but it is also easier to find personnel, particularly at CB. It puts a burden on the front seven, but that is Spagnuolo's reputation.

J

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2 hours ago, Habbsawce said:

The defense looks terrible again. 

As I’ve mentioned numerous times, historically Spag’s defenses aren’t god year one but they make a big jump year two. 

Since we weren’t playing a top offense I was hoping we’d do better. Funnily enough, we gave up 26 points which is exactly what we averaged last year. 

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29 minutes ago, kingseanjohn said:

As I’ve mentioned numerous times, historically Spag’s defenses aren’t god year one but they make a big jump year two. 

Since we weren’t playing a top offense I was hoping we’d do better. Funnily enough, we gave up 26 points which is exactly what we averaged last year. 

 

I'm not overly worried (even though watching it gives me heartburn) as the offense is going to torch teams, and the defense is going to give up a lot of meaningless points later in games by just playing soft defensive schemes. But, they better get it together and ramp it up in the playoffs, where is actually matters.

 

16 game dress rehearsal for the real show.

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I liked what I saw from Breeland and Thornhill.  Fuller still wasn’t great, but a step above last year.    

Mathieu wasn’t that involved,  but the play from the guys above makes me think the secondary will be alright once Claiborne arrives.  Mathieu didn’t do a whole lot of hunting, as he was stock playing CB in the slot a ton. 

LB play was much better though so that’s a plus 

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21 minutes ago, samsel23 said:

I liked what I saw from Breeland and Thornhill.  Fuller still wasn’t great, but a step above last year.    

Mathieu wasn’t that involved,  but the play from the guys above makes me think the secondary will be alright once Claiborne arrives.  Mathieu didn’t do a whole lot of hunting, as he was stock playing CB in the slot a ton. 

LB play was much better though so that’s a plus 

Fuller by now I consider vastly overrated ...

Ward was ... well  ... PS worthy ...

88% pass completion is telling a story of its own ...

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26 minutes ago, KC_Guy said:

Fuller by now I consider vastly overrated ...

Ward was ... well  ... PS worthy ...

88% pass completion is telling a story of its own ...

Definitely wasn’t good or pretty.  I’m not “too” concerned about it though.   

The stats look awful,  but I liked how many guys we usually had around the ball, even on plenty if receptions we had a guy right there, just failed to make a play.

Wilson looked better than any thing we had at LB and Thornhill was as better than anything we had at Safety.

Not saying it was good, but there were some positives and hardly any miscues game 1 of a new scheme. 

 

 

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2 hours ago, samsel23 said:

I liked what I saw from Breeland and Thornhill.  Fuller still wasn’t great, but a step above last year.    

Mathieu wasn’t that involved,  but the play from the guys above makes me think the secondary will be alright once Claiborne arrives.  Mathieu didn’t do a whole lot of hunting, as he was stock playing CB in the slot a ton. 

LB play was much better though so that’s a plus 

Thornhill is going to be a monster. I would hope for Earl Thomas, but he isn't that physical. Still, there will Pro Bowls in his future. Fuller is getting a chance to play to his strengths, which is a good thing, but it points out that he is a limited player. As you say, Mathieu played coverage all day. Eventually, that will be Thornhill's role. You mention Breeland (not to be confused with Breeland Speaks) who had a PD and a FR, but I did not notice him much. Perhaps that'a good thing, because Ward got picked on.

I was expecting significant improvement from the LB corps. The old defense was so complex that young players couldn't grasp a lot of it. This one is much more instinctive and plays to our athleticism. The downside is that it can get predictable. Still, like Fuller, Hitchens is much looser and looked like the player we signed. Damien Wilson also looked good. OTOH it's like Ragland and Lee never got on the field. 

You did not mention the DL, which is a shame. They were very good. The Jags chose to double Clark and Jones as much as possible, but the other guys made plays. Okafor, Ogbah, Nnadi all had solid games. My heart went out to Okafor when he tipped the pass and came inches short of a pock-6. Obviously, Frank Clark did pull one down. 

On the other side of the ball, Mahomes is now 4-0 against top-5 defenses, rating the Jags on 20018. Watkins had the most impressive Chiefs WR games since Stephone Paige had 256 yards and 2 TD in the first half.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/198512220kan.htm

 

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DL played well.  I’m sure most of us expected that,  didn’t go unnoticed just didn’t mention as they did what was expected. 

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22 hours ago, Habbsawce said:

The defense looks terrible again. 

I thought the run D was better.

They also have up half the points in the 4th quarter in garbage time

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What are your guys' thought on the RB situation going forward? Fantasy related but i was offered Ertz for D. Williams. 

Unlike most people, I didn't think Shady was falling off (watched every Bills game) and it proved Sunday as he looked really good. Not sure if they'll split carries all year or if there's any chance McCoy steps up as the main RB but wanted to get KC fans who watch and track the team closer than i do. thanks

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