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2020/2021 - The 55: Roster Talk & Team-Building Analysis

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2 minutes ago, Kiwibrown said:

Kirko gets cut, not because of who drafted him, but because he has failed to live up to his contract, even more so than carrie, harris or taylor. 

The only reason he is here still is because he is popular and drafted by the browns and played ok in 2016

Oh for sure, his salary and injuries are why he’s getting cut, just like the other dudes.

Taylor makes 3-4x what a rookie LB who does nothing but plays ST.  Same for OG Kush.  Hell, dude was outplayed by the kid from Buffalo who’s on a rookie deal.  Incompletrious isn’t awful, but he’s overpaid.

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3 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said:

Oh for sure, his salary and injuries are why he’s getting cut, just like the other dudes.

Taylor makes 3-4x what a rookie LB who does nothing but plays ST.  Same for OG Kush.  Hell, dude was outplayed by the kid from Buffalo who’s on a rookie deal.  Incompletrious isn’t awful, but he’s overpaid.

Taylor is embarrassing for dorsey, in 2018, he banged intontheboline and held his ground against the run, 2019 no interest in stopping the run once he got payed. 

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And so it begins..

I think Vernon gets restructured as he and his agent know they're not getting even 9 if he hits the market now.

 

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22 minutes ago, Mind Character said:

And so it begins..

I think Vernon gets restructured as he and his agent know they're not getting even 9 if he hits the market now.

 

Maybe, but what’s the benefit in doing so for them?

If he doesn’t he’s either paid 15 million or able to pick his destination of choice.  Maybe that’s here.... 😬 

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Nerd fail already.  I get that Carrie was overpaid for a #4 CB, but he was not detrimental to the cap at all this year.  He would be fine when it was time to start writing the big checks.

His skill and production won’t be replaced by a street free agent and likely not by a very low draft pick.

Both award and Greedy appear to be fragile.  If they are both down at the same time again as they were last year, we will be screwed without Carry.

this was 1000% financial analytics fail.

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56 minutes ago, Mind Character said:

And so it begins..

I think Vernon gets restructured as he and his agent know they're not getting even 9 if he hits the market now.

 

I hope that happens. 

Same with kirko, drop him down to 4 million per year, he will be lucky to get over vet min on open market.

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3 hours ago, DizzyDean said:

Nerd fail already.  I get that Carrie was overpaid for a #4 CB, but he was not detrimental to the cap at all this year.  He would be fine when it was time to start writing the big checks.

His skill and production won’t be replaced by a street free agent and likely not by a very low draft pick.

Both award and Greedy appear to be fragile.  If they are both down at the same time again as they were last year, we will be screwed without Carry.

this was 1000% financial analytics fail.

When you count roll over cap its a win. 

His coverage grade was 47 from pff, that is terrible, can replace that with a guy off the street.

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2 hours ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said:

Maybe, but what’s the benefit in doing so for them?

If he doesn’t he’s either paid 15 million or able to pick his destination of choice.  Maybe that’s here.... 😬 

Lol. It's definitely not here.

The benefit could be more money over the course of two years.

Players restructure in a final year before hitting free agency or when facing a certain cut at season's end when they believe it's financially advantageous to do so, especially when their value is at an all time low.

After two consecutive years of missing at least 5 games and 3 consecutive games of at least 4, Vernon's contract value on the open market is at an all time low.

Therefore, if he's offered to restructure or change his contract around so that he gets for example 9 million instead of 15 million in guarantees with 6 million built in as unlikely escalators, that 9 million may very well be more desirable than what he could get from the market immediately via release and subsequent Free Agency where he'll likely receive a low commitment  1-year prove-it deal.

So, over the course of the next two years restructuring to a lower, more acceptable contract number before hitting UFA at season's end could net him more money than being immediately release, signing a 1-year prove-it deal (let's say this FA period teams are willing to give him 7million), and hitting the market at season's end.

 

This would be especially true if this upcoming year in continues on his trajectory of 3-years in a row being out injured for multiple games.

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1 hour ago, Mind Character said:

After two consecutive years of missing at least 5 games and 3 consecutive games of at least 4, Vernon's contract value on the open market is at an all time low.

This is why I cannot see keeping him.

How do you plan your roster with someone whose track record says that he won't be able to answer the bell for a significant number of games?

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Vernon is a legit starter though, and pur best option across from Myles, he had 35 pressures and 4 sacks through 10 games, and was probably injured the whole time. 

Id do everything to keep him at a discounted rate. Save 6 million pay 9.

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6 hours ago, candyman93 said:

Lol those are all Dorsey guys 

"Real football players"

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39 minutes ago, Kiwibrown said:

Vernon is a legit starter though, and pur best option across from Myles, he had 35 pressures and 4 sacks through 10 games, and was probably injured the whole time. 

Id do everything to keep him at a discounted rate. Save 6 million pay 9.

Not happening. 

He would get 12-14M annually in this market, so there's no reason to take a pay cut for him.

He is on a 1 year deal. There is no scenario where he can be replaced by a comparable player on a 1 year deal.

Everybody counting on him getting cut should prepare themselves for disappointment. 

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