Rich7sena Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 I’m not sure how much sense Armstead makes as a high dollar signing for the Raiders. I actually think the defensive line is pretty good. I’d rather spend the money on the secondary and linebacker group. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazer026 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 28 minutes ago, Jerry said: I don't want Leonard Williams. I don't think he produces enough pressure. 20 tackles, 0 sacks last season. Unless I come to find out he was triple teamed every play, then yeah, don't want him. Hahaha I don’t know either, but I hope that was the case now. Triple teamed every play Lololol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agarcia34 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 DT is a huge weak point for this team. Baby soft in the middle got no dawgs got no real pass rush in the middle. Armstead would bring that pass rush and that dawg mentality. Hurst and Hall are back ups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich7sena Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 56 minutes ago, agarcia34 said: DT is a huge weak point for this team. Baby soft in the middle got no dawgs got no real pass rush in the middle. Armstead would bring that pass rush and that dawg mentality. Hurst and Hall are back ups. I disagree with this assessment. I thought the interior defensive line played relatively well compared to the rest of the league. Hankins and Hall are good early-down starters and Hurst has always shown pop as a pass rusher when needed. Between the three, I see a pretty good interior defensive line rotation. And, if I'm Armstead, I want to be rushing off the edge on early downs, not mashing in the middle. Also, if it was hard for Ferrell to get on the field during the last half of the season last year, he better get used to riding the pine in 2020 with Armstead on the roster. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raidr4life Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, agarcia34 said: DT is a huge weak point for this team. Baby soft in the middle got no dawgs got no real pass rush in the middle. Armstead would bring that pass rush and that dawg mentality. Hurst and Hall are back ups. Top 10 run defense, no dogs baby soft? Edited January 24, 2020 by raidr4life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezy Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 I wouldn’t say DT is a need and would be sort of a luxury pick, but a hog like Armstead or Kinlaw could elevate the whole defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agarcia34 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 20 minutes ago, raidr4life said: Top 10 run defense, no dogs baby soft? That run defense ranking is fraudulent. But it’s the ranking. So I get what ur saying. They don’t have dawgs on that defensive line. Hankins is the only NFL starter at DT. Hurst is a back up. And PJ Hall won’t even be on the roster after the final cuts in camp. Raiders need a massive overhaul at DT. That’s just my opinion but DT play has not been good for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drfrey13 Posted January 24, 2020 Author Share Posted January 24, 2020 19 minutes ago, raidr4life said: Top 10 run defense, no dogs baby soft? We could use some players on the line and the secondary but it is priority number 1 to get some lbs. I would like to get a good 3T to go with with the other guys and would look for a starter quality player but we still need to get value. I would not mind a player like Kinlaw @ 19 or there are a few non blockbuster 3T in FA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raidr4life Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 21 minutes ago, agarcia34 said: That run defense ranking is fraudulent. But it’s the ranking. So I get what ur saying. They don’t have dawgs on that defensive line. Hankins is the only NFL starter at DT. Hurst is a back up. And PJ Hall won’t even be on the roster after the final cuts in camp. Raiders need a massive overhaul at DT. That’s just my opinion but DT play has not been good for years. How is it fraudulent tho, do we need someone who can get sacks, yes that would help, but good run defense is the exact opposite of soft. All we need is to add a guy like Chris Jones overhaul is a stretch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chali21 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 4 hours ago, RaidersAreOne said: I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drfrey13 Posted January 24, 2020 Author Share Posted January 24, 2020 53 minutes ago, raidr4life said: How is it fraudulent tho, do we need someone who can get sacks, yes that would help, but good run defense is the exact opposite of soft. All we need is to add a guy like Chris Jones overhaul is a stretch Why have we not done this yet? It is so easy. just kidding. A player like that would definitely fix the majority of the problems but the chances of that happening are small in the draft and even slimmer that a player like Jones hits the market. That is why I am in favor of trading up for Brown if he gets past seven. We could even trade up to 7 but would cost us. Maybe Jackson plus 12 if we are lucky. Carolina could then draft Kinlaw and have Jackson. Kinlaw has the ability but the chance he reaches that level is slim. Brown is much more likely to be a dominant force. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble_Beast Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Hope we use our cowboys ties for Malik Collins DT and Bryon Jones CB. Two instant starters and overall good explosive players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Mayock's interview with Vinny Bonsignore: highlighted how far off the defense is. Wants to get better at DT, LB, AND in the secondary. Not a ringing endorsement (which I'm a fan of). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersAreOne Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, MrOaktown_56 said: Mayock's interview with Vinny Bonsignore: highlighted how far off the defense is. Wants to get better at DT, LB, AND in the secondary. Not a ringing endorsement (which I'm a fan of). He's content with DE hey? Interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezy Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 16 minutes ago, Humble_Beast said: Hope we use our cowboys ties for Malik Collins DT and Bryon Jones CB. Two instant starters and overall good explosive players Jones is going to cost too much for a corner that doesn’t cause turnovers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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