abstract_thought Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 I find it interesting that while NFL defenses are quicker and more athletic than ever, the league still places a premium on size for offensive linemen. Seemingly every week I watch some 6’8” giant try to keep up with a Leonard Floyd type - do NFL people really think these big guys stand a chance? NFL people want to blame college offenses for their problems but looking at the physical mismatches I’m not confused by the state of OL play at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugashane Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 53 minutes ago, abstract_thought said: I find it interesting that while NFL defenses are quicker and more athletic than ever, the league still places a premium on size for offensive linemen. Seemingly every week I watch some 6’8” giant try to keep up with a Leonard Floyd type - do NFL people really think these big guys stand a chance? NFL people want to blame college offenses for their problems but looking at the physical mismatches I’m not confused by the state of OL play at all. Idk Floyd was invisible out there against a mammoth. He seems to struggle with size and power more than he does athletic OTs, though that may just be recent events speaking rather than a fact, Idk. If they chip the guy into the monster tjen the massive OTs work fine imo. Sharpe had a fantastic game vs us this Sunday. He isn't fast enough to keep up with these guys in a footrace but once he gets his hands in someone they're done, much like Brown after his horrible Combine testing. Plus unlike with guys like Leno youre rarely going to be able to bullrush them, so power guys like Watt can't just run through them with consistent success. In the run game it is the same thing, bigger wall to try and get around, though it really limits them with pulling, second level reach blocks, etc. Of course that is a slightly oversimplified view of it due to technique, effort, etc that all factor in but I see why they do it. OL coaches are being handed bigger guys then they need to teach them the techniques and use that size and strength to their advantage. Right now we have a really athletic OL (excluding the corpse formerly known as Kyle Long) and they have been dogs**t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugashane Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Quote By the end of this season, Daniel will have earned $34,304,317 over 11 years in the NFL. It's quite an achievement, considering he just made his fifth career start on Sunday Are you f***ing kidding me?!?! I'm changing my son to QB, FML. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEAR FACE DOWN ARROW Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 11 hours ago, Sugashane said: Are you f***ing kidding me?!?! I'm changing my son to QB, FML. Yeah just don't let him get too good. You want that sweet spot of 7 million dollars per start, but every other year or so 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugashane Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 4 hours ago, RunningVaccs said: Yeah just don't let him get too good. You want that sweet spot of 7 million dollars per start, but every other year or so Easy. He has my genetics. He will never be able to be "too good." Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topwop1 Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 16 hours ago, Sugashane said: Are you f***ing kidding me?!?! I'm changing my son to QB, FML. Ya Daniel has been committing robbery ever since he joined the NFL. I mean if you're going to be paid that much as an average backup then at least be able to bring that coaching/mentoring element to young Mitchy boy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heinz D. Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 On 10/9/2019 at 2:06 PM, Sugashane said: Idk Floyd was invisible out there against a mammoth. He seems to struggle with size and power more than he does athletic OTs, though that may just be recent events speaking rather than a fact, Idk. Said it in the other thread--pretty much the biggest problem of a 3-4 defense right there. (Combined with the D-linemen not being able to combat size and power with quickness). As long as the Bears run a 3-4, these sort of things will continue to happen. Not regularly, thank goodness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abstract_thought Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 If either of Nick Foles or Cam Newton becomes available for a mid round pick - do you make a deal? Foles has experience in this offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardown3231 Posted October 13, 2019 Author Share Posted October 13, 2019 14 minutes ago, abstract_thought said: If either of Nick Foles or Cam Newton becomes available for a mid round pick - do you make a deal? Foles has experience in this offense. You have to think Jacksonville will keep Foles. Minshew has been nothing special and even if they wanted to trade Foles, they would have to send a ton of money or take a much lesser return. Note: the Kyle Allen story is why keeping Tyler Bray around is nonsense. They should be developing QB's constantly, not wasting time with Bray. I've never been ultra impressed by Cam Newton. Since their Super Bowl appearance he's been nothing more than average. I'd rather have Allen honestly, but I think they'll hang onto both for another year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damikeeeee Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 I would love OJ Howard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardown3231 Posted October 13, 2019 Author Share Posted October 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Damikeeeee said: I would love OJ Howard. I don't think Tampa's in a rush to trade their 3rd year, ultra athletic TE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugashane Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 1 hour ago, abstract_thought said: If either of Nick Foles or Cam Newton becomes available for a mid round pick - do you make a deal? Foles has experience in this offense. Foles is a definite no for me. Low ceiling and unless you want to eat $12.5 mil you're stuck with him for 3 years. Newton you could cut for only $2 mil next year, and while he isn't impressive he might be a bit better than Tru atm. I'd still say no though I think. He has no knowledge of the system or rapport with the receivers. If this was a highly accurate QB I'd give it a go but accuracy has always been an issue for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardown3231 Posted October 13, 2019 Author Share Posted October 13, 2019 Finally, Tennessee has benched Mariota. Sometimes I wonder if he knew what a forward pass was. Between (allegedly) loving Mariota and taking Trubisky over Mahomes & Watson, the optimist in me is wearing off and I'm starting to hope Pace won't be choosing the next "franchise" QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malagabears Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 (edited) My observation for today: On any given Sunday we can beat either the Saints, Chiefs, or Rams with a healthy D and the O playing to it's capability. Edited October 13, 2019 by malagabears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardown3231 Posted October 13, 2019 Author Share Posted October 13, 2019 1 minute ago, malagabears said: My observation for today: On any given Sunday we can beat either the Saints, Chiefs, or Rams with a healthy D and the O playing to it's capability. Depending on your definition of "capability" I'd say "yeah no ****." If the offense scores 24 every week they'll finish the year 9-2 or 10-1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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