Matts4313 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 2 hours ago, ET80 said: If Miami is OK with a 2022 1st and a 2023 1st/3rd, then might as well put Minkah on the Texans tab. And here I thought you respected the sacred art of calling dibs. I see you are a man of little honor. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 2 hours ago, FrantikRam said: As a Rams fan, I witnessed the worst five year stretch in NFL history - an average of five consecutive 3-13 seasons. After that I watched Jeff Fisher for years. I think I may have only missed one game in all that time - I'm a diehard fan. But this would be too much for me I think - are Dolphins fans going to watch every game? Ask the Browns fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrantikRam Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Just now, Daniel said: Ask the Browns fans. The Browns never really tried to lose - they were just bad at trying to win. I live in Ohio and am around Browns fans all the time - this Dolphins thing feels different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 51 minutes ago, ronjon1990 said: If I'm the league, I'm sitting pat and letting Miami burn itself. I'll give them a 6th for Minkah. Or they can keep him and deal with the headache that would be them having to pay him anyway. That team has absolutely zero leverage at this point. Minkah Fitzpatrick's contract has up to 3.9 years left and is coming off a bad game. What leverage does he have? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSteelers56 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Bullet Club said: Minkah Fitzpatrick's contract has up to 3.9 years left and is coming off a bad game. What leverage does he have? I think @ronjon1990 was speaking more about the other teams have the leverage. Not the Phins or Minkah. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 11 minutes ago, FrantikRam said: The Browns never really tried to lose - they were just bad at trying to win. I live in Ohio and am around Browns fans all the time - this Dolphins thing feels different. It feels different because they are shedding players who have shown something at the NFL level and are young enough to be a part of the rebuild. I can't remember the Browns making moves like that. When they traded young guys who were high picks, it was mostly guys who had been failures up to that point (Erving, et al) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carrolljcmc Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 (edited) Dolphins should trade him to the Cardinals for the same pick they got Rosen for. Seems only fair lol. Edited September 13, 2019 by carrolljcmc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnies20 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 28 minutes ago, FrantikRam said: The Browns never really tried to lose - they were just bad at trying to win. I live in Ohio and am around Browns fans all the time - this Dolphins thing feels different. I can confirm this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Matts4313 said: And here I thought you respected the sacred art of calling dibs. I see you are a man of little honor. Took you this long to see I'm a lying bastard? Welp, can't help you there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKillerNacho Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 1 hour ago, ronjon1990 said: If I'm the league, I'm sitting pat and letting Miami burn itself. I'll give them a 6th for Minkah. Or they can keep him and deal with the headache that would be them having to pay him anyway. That team has absolutely zero leverage at this point. ??? Dolphins are under no pressure to trade Minkah whatsoever and would more than happily just keep him if no one blows them away with an offer. I'd be shocked if he's traded for anything less than a 1st. He's more than likely not going anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 10 minutes ago, ET80 said: Took you this long to see I'm a lying bastard? Welp, can't help you there. Well there was that time I yelled 'shotgun' and you ran up to grab the passenger seat. I started to get suspicious about your credibility.... But I thought you were just being funny as you were the driver. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKillerNacho Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Now if yall need a safety, Reshad Jones can be had for like a 5th probably Assuming you're one of the like seven teams who have enough cap to afford his contract... although Miami would probably gladly pay part of the salary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamondbull424 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 11 hours ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: The market for Minkah should be interesting. I knew this was coming. When your mom is coming out talking about how the coaching staff is using you improperly, you know that one of the players asking to be traded is one of your young players. This Guy was drafted above Derwin James and if the Ravens hadn’t added Earl Thomas to solidify our FS spot, I would trade two 2nds for Minkah as he can be both a single high safety as well as nickel as well as aggressively make plays in the box- on occasion. That said after this incident, you’d have to lower his value just because now you can’t be sure if Minkah has the mentality to be the elite safety that his athleticism and skillset would suggest. Does he complain if another coaching staff doesn’t use him the way he feels he should be used? So ultimately I think they’ll get either two 2nds or a 2nd and a 3rd for him. Or perhaps a 2nd/3rd and a player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nextsuperstar1 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 I don’t think Minkah, as a second year player, should really be telling a coach who came up under Belichick how to organize his defense. He’s basically saying he’s incapable (as a safety) of being versatile. It’s not like he is Darrell Revis and has years of NFL experience as a coverage corner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKillerNacho Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Just now, nextsuperstar1 said: I don’t think Minkah, as a second year player, should really be telling a coach who came up under Belichick how to organize his defense. He’s basically saying he’s incapable (as a safety) of being versatile. It’s not like he is Darrell Revis and has years of NFL experience as a coverage corner. I can see why Minkah is upset... they asked him to learn like six positions this offseason and Minkah didn't know whether to bulk up (to play SS or LB) or trim down a bit to remain a FS or slot CB. That, and the coaching staff isn't prioritizing using Minkah like the last one was. It's not unrealistic for a player to want a true position. It's kind of absurd the coaching staff is bouncing him around as much as they are, but part of the reason is the staff likes the two other safeties on the roster (Reshad Jones and Bobby McCain). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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