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12 hours ago, wackywabbit said:

Scarier thought for the Dolphins Organization: If the Browns' season doesn't go well... what if, humor me for a minute, what if, just hypothetically... what if being historically terrible at football ISN'T the best way to build contender?

It worked pretty damn well for the Cowboys in the 90s loll 

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7 hours ago, theJ said:

I can't think of an example where it's really worked.  The problem is that you're tanking for one player out of 53.  Even if that guy is a QB, his impact is severely limited to the quality of the team around him.  In basketball it's one guy out of 7 or 8.  Baseball is a little different because you don't have the parity of football, so rebuilding is already commonplace.  May as well do it with the best draft picks possible.

I don't think even a game against the Patriots can save them next week.  They might actually get swept by them this year.

They're not tanking for single player lol, they're tanking for high draft picks in multiple rounds. They're doing what the Cowboys of the 90s and current Browns are doing. 

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6 minutes ago, Activated10 said:

They're not tanking for single player lol, they're tanking for high draft picks in multiple rounds. They're doing what the Cowboys of the 90s and current Browns are doing. 

What is the real difference between pick 1 in round 2, and pick 8?  It's a dumb thing to do, ruining all your current players for potential that likely won't be realized.

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4 minutes ago, theJ said:

What is the real difference between pick 1 in round 2, and pick 8?  It's a dumb thing to do, ruining all your current players for potential that likely won't be realized.

Loll most of these players won't be here in 3 years anyways so that won't matter. Also difference between pick 2 and pick 8 is you have better chance of selecting the player you want or trade down for more picks if the you guy value can be had for later. 

 

These scrubs crying about being traded will be bench warmers on other teams lmao

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17 minutes ago, Activated10 said:

Loll most of these players won't be here in 3 years anyways so that won't matter. Also difference between pick 2 and pick 8 is you have better chance of selecting the player you want or trade down for more picks if the you guy value can be had for later. 

 

These scrubs crying about being traded will be bench warmers on other teams lmao

They won't be on the team, but they will surely influence the culture of the team that those #1 picks find themselves on.  

No one will ever be proven right or wrong here, but i firmly believe that the Dolphins approach is the wrong one.  All sorts of examples of great QB's being selected in the #2-15 range recently.  No need to nuke your whole roster to get the #1 spot.  If you're bad, you can surely move to the right spot to get the guy you want.

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1 hour ago, theJ said:

No one will ever be proven right or wrong here, but i firmly believe that the Dolphins approach is the wrong one.  

Dolphins tried the 6-10 losing approach in 2017, then the 7-9 losing approach in 2018. 

This new losing approach looks much more promising, as in it actually looks like a plan is in place: to draft often and high. 

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1 minute ago, FinSting said:

Dolphins tried the 6-10 losing approach in 2017, then the 7-9 losing approach in 2019. 

This new losing approach looks much more promising, as in it actually looks like a plan is in place: to draft often and high. 

Was it the wrong approach, or did they take the wrong QB when presented with the opportunity?

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3 hours ago, theJ said:

They won't be on the team, but they will surely influence the culture of the team that those #1 picks find themselves on.  

No one will ever be proven right or wrong here, but i firmly believe that the Dolphins approach is the wrong one.  All sorts of examples of great QB's being selected in the #2-15 range recently.  No need to nuke your whole roster to get the #1 spot.  If you're bad, you can surely move to the right spot to get the guy you want.

Honestly it depends on the context.

We were a talentless void before this season - it was an aging, expensive (we had virtually no cap room) roster with no real star power whatsoever. The Dolphins didn't let anyone of value in a long-term rebuild go except Laremy Tunsil and that's because the value was there - Houston simply overpaid by a large margin that it would've been stupid not to trade him. Meanwhile, most of the players leaving last offseason and this one were old, bad, and/or way too expensive. Most didn't really make us that much better in the short-term while putting us in cap and draft hell.

Nothing could've prevented us from being bad this season. We could've tried to retain the talent we had but even in ideal circumstances we were looking at a 6-10 year, realistically.

So the Dolphins had a choice. Try only to put together another bad season anyway or fix our cap situation while accumulating draft assets. They chose the latter.

 

A common misconception here seems to be the Dolphins are trying to tank for one player. That couldn't be further from the truth - the Dolphins have 22 picks to work with (including multiple 1sts and 2nds) over the next two seasons and have relieved itself from the cap hell it was in so it could afford to shore up the roster in free agency, too. Perhaps it won't lead to longterm success, but I'd roll the dice on a full rebuild than stick with a 6-10 squad with no cap room or draft picks anyday - even if that means we lose five-six more games than we would've otherwise.

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1 minute ago, TheKillerNacho said:

A common misconception here seems to be the Dolphins are trying to tank for one player. That couldn't be further from the truth - the Dolphins have 22 picks to work with (including multiple 1sts and 2nds) over the next two seasons and have relieved itself from the cap hell it was in so it could afford to shore up the roster in free agency, too. Perhaps it won't lead to longterm success, but I'd roll the dice on a full rebuild than stick with a 6-10 squad with no cap room or draft picks anyday - even if that means we lose five-six more games than we would've otherwise.

Well said! 

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Teams who go all out for the rebuild turn around a lot faster than those who try and be 8-8 year in and year out; provided they aren't complete morons in the FO.  Grier's yield from HOU for Tunsil tells me he's not a complete moron.  He's already done a ton more responsible cap management than in the Tannenbaum years.  

It's early - trust the process, MIA fans.   Given how much cap hell & talent depletion Tannenbaum created in his effort to make 5-7 win teams 9-10 win teams (and failing most years), better to take this approach for 2-3 years.   Yes, the culture's at risk.   But honestly, most of these guys aren't good enough to stay on a good team by then (Howard, Minkah, Wilkins, Jerome Baker, and maybe Preston Williams could be the holdovers, plus any other draft picks from 2018-19).   

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