NJerseypaint Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 16 minutes ago, KingOfTheDot said: You clearly know that was a typo. Anyway, would you say both of those coaches have better or worse personnel for their schemes than Gase? Yeah, I know it's a typo, I'm asking which one is what you meant. Like do you think Gase is JD's guy, or do you think he's going to get his guy? And I wouldn't say Kliff has better personnel. His OL is on paper has good (or as bad) as ours. The receivers are nothing special outside a very old Fitz. And they just scooped up Kenyan Drake. We are pretty comparable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickyt31 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 Honestly, if we started this season with the surrounding Jimmy G has, everyone on here would be heated. You all complain about Anderson not being a #1, but he's better than what the 49ers have at WR before Sanders. Outside of their oline, Kittle is the only player people here would have been happy about. You're not going to tell me you would have been happy with Breida over Bell. Even with their oline, I don't think anyone would be happy with some of the individual players on that line going into the season. That's why it's not just the talent but the coaching. Not too many play-callers in the NFL would have gotten the same production out of this group. I have to give the coaches credit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockice_8 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 Truth is the talent is bad but if there is one sport you can kind of scheme away poor talent it's the NFL. Right now the coaching and the roster are both pretty underwhelming. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekill08x Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 2 hours ago, GangGreen420 said: Exit strategy for sure. He’ll be moved in the offseason for a 1 and 3 probably. would be very happy with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfNewYork Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 3 hours ago, NJerseypaint said: Yeah, I know it's a typo, I'm asking which one is what you meant. Like do you think Gase is JD's guy, or do you think he's going to get his guy? And I wouldn't say Kliff has better personnel. His OL is on paper has good (or as bad) as ours. The receivers are nothing special outside a very old Fitz. And they just scooped up Kenyan Drake. We are pretty comparable. I was saying those GMs gave those coaches the pieces they need. 49ers been building for 3 years now both Lynch and Shanahan came on 6 year deals. They never rushed the process. Cardinals drafted almost exclusively offense, they went with Murray who fit with KK better than Rosen, they drafted multiple receivers and did the best they could with OL. All I’m saying is they gave their coaches a chance, Gase was handed a team that didn’t address any major concerns and the two high priced Free Agents we added are either injured(Mosley) or useless(Bell) because of the poor OL play. Has Gase been great? Not really but has he really had a chance at this point with all the injuries and roster issues? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfNewYork Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 3 hours ago, GangGreen420 said: Exit strategy for sure. He’ll be moved in the offseason for a 1 and 3 probably. I would send him to the worst place possible as well like Washington or Cincinnati for his behavior. Our leader has put himself above the team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfNewYork Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 2 hours ago, rickyt31 said: Honestly, if we started this season with the surrounding Jimmy G has, everyone on here would be heated. You all complain about Anderson not being a #1, but he's better than what the 49ers have at WR before Sanders. Outside of their oline, Kittle is the only player people here would have been happy about. You're not going to tell me you would have been happy with Breida over Bell. Even with their oline, I don't think anyone would be happy with some of the individual players on that line going into the season. That's why it's not just the talent but the coaching. Not too many play-callers in the NFL would have gotten the same production out of this group. I have to give the coaches credit. They’re strong where they need to be though. Good OL, great pass rush. Have we not been asking for that for the last 8 years? Most of the darksiders said it that we would not be good because the OL was trash and we didn’t have a pass rush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickyt31 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 13 minutes ago, KingOfTheDot said: They’re strong where they need to be though. Good OL, great pass rush. Have we not been asking for that for the last 8 years? Most of the darksiders said it that we would not be good because the OL was trash and we didn’t have a pass rush. Relax, I'm just talking about the offense. The oline wasn't expected to be this good with a player who failed in Detroit and another who spent 2 years on the falcons practice squad. Even Richberg struggled last season. The oline is performing better than people expected and there isn't a player in the "Skill positions" outside of Kittle that would be a #1 on this team. The staff over there run a great system and it's working. Originally I wanted to say they were only winning because of their defense but that offense is averaging almost 30ppg, #3 in the league. They are performing with less. We can say NOW that we wish we had their oline but if we came into the season with that surrounding, mock drafts would have been posted during preseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfNewYork Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 45 minutes ago, rickyt31 said: Relax, I'm just talking about the offense. The oline wasn't expected to be this good with a player who failed in Detroit and another who spent 2 years on the falcons practice squad. Even Richberg struggled last season. The oline is performing better than people expected and there isn't a player in the "Skill positions" outside of Kittle that would be a #1 on this team. The staff over there run a great system and it's working. Originally I wanted to say they were only winning because of their defense but that offense is averaging almost 30ppg, #3 in the league. They are performing with less. We can say NOW that we wish we had their oline but if we came into the season with that surrounding, mock drafts would have been posted during preseason. Projections are always a shot in the dark. You never know how a player will perform in a new system or with certain guys around them. On the strength of McGlinchey and Staley most would take their OL. Factor in that Shanahan running scheme where average backs become stars and then Kittle being a match up nightmare and they’re firing on all cylinders. Lets build a program here. That’s what the great organizations do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJerseypaint Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 Adams will sure up. He's not going anywhere. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickyt31 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 9 minutes ago, KingOfTheDot said: Projections are always a shot in the dark. You never know how a player will perform in a new system or with certain guys around them. On the strength of McGlinchey and Staley most would take their OL. Factor in that Shanahan running scheme where average backs become stars and then Kittle being a match up nightmare and they’re firing on all cylinders. Lets build a program here. That’s what the great organizations do. That's my point. Shan runs a great system and with the 2 offensive lineman you just named, there are literally only 3 players we would take from that offense right now. So I can't compare too many coaches in the league period to what Shan is doing in San Fran. I agree with building like the Ravens and 49ers. They both follow the same plan and my gut tells me JD will make an attempt to give us what we want. With the teams he was a part of, I don't see him building this team without a tough defense and oline. We have the picks and the cap space to build it. We just have to hope JD knows what he is doing. The players are there this offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.O Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 Ideally this offseason I resign Robby, Lewis and a handful of backups, cut Trumaine, Khalil, Roberts, Winters, restructure Harrison, and trade Jamal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfNewYork Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 2 hours ago, Dr.O said: Ideally this offseason I resign Robby, Lewis and a handful of backups, cut Trumaine, Khalil, Roberts, Winters, restructure Harrison, and trade Jamal. Here’s my preliminary depth chart going into next year QB- Darnold RB- Bell/Josh Adams WR1- ?????? WR2- Robby/Smith Slot- Crowder/Berrios TE- Herndon/Griffin LT- ??????? LG- Lewis C- ?????? RG- ????? RT- ????? DE- Philips NT- McLendon/Fatukasi DT- Quinnen OLB- Jenkins MLB- Mosley/Hewitt WLB- Avery/Cashman OLB- ?????? CB1- ?????? FS- Maye SS- Adams CB2- Hairston Nickel- Poole Obviously we can’t fill every hole with a top tier talent but we should be able to add a piece that’s an upgrade to the previous player in that role. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickyt31 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 Yannick Ngakoue is someone I want us to jump on. I think he's great for the 34 OLB spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfNewYork Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 look at this idiot’s reaction when he gets called on the BS lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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