Bobby816 Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Just now, jetskid007 said: Don't agree with you at all. Resilience is a real thing and one can argue that hard-fought wins defines a team's culture much more than a blow-out win. Teaches players that every rep matters; that one thing you did "extra" in preparing for the game could've made the difference between a W or a L. As far as draft positioning, in my opinion its largely meaningless unless you're strategically trying to put yourself in a position to draft a QB or one of the draft's top prospects. What’s a positive from last week and this week for the future of this team? What players played great to build off of? Burgess and Basham? Guys who are backups? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJets4716 Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Time to move towards the future. Get Darnold help. Build a ol and get some wrs. Let Anderson walk, hes not worth big money. Might as well go for cooper if you spend big on a wr. Joe Douglas needs to prove his worth, he has a monster contract for a gm. He also got the jets to spend on a new scouting department. Time for them to build a better team and put Darnold in a situation to succeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.O Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 WR core next year: CeeDee Lamb, Breshad Perriman, Jamison, Crowder, Vyn Smith, Berrios 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 5 minutes ago, NYJets4716 said: Time to move towards the future. Get Darnold help. Build a ol and get some wrs. Let Anderson walk, hes not worth big money. Might as well go for cooper if you spend big on a wr. Joe Douglas needs to prove his worth, he has a monster contract for a gm. He also got the jets to spend on a new scouting department. Time for them to build a better team and put Darnold in a situation to succeed. What’s done is done. What needs to happen is what you’ve said. Rebuild the OL and get a couple weapons on the field. I honestly would be perfectly ok if we barely changed the defensive side of the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.O Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 If Thomas, Wills, or Wirfs aren’t there I’m all for one of CeeDee, Jeudy, Jefferson, or Ruggs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bianconero Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 It'd be very #Jets to take away Mark Sanchez' favorite weapons then Sam Darnold's back to back Resigning Robby should not be a question 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 5 minutes ago, Bianconero said: It'd be very #Jets to take away Mark Sanchez' favorite weapons then Sam Darnold's back to back Resigning Robby should not be a question For the right price. Go look at the list of WRs making 10mill and above. They’re all vastly better than Robby 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrade Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Hmmm.....Sterling Shepard, Sammy Watkins, OBJ, Adam Thielen?, Funchess, Emanuel Sanders?, Tyler Boyd. Are they all truly more important to their team than RA is to the Jets? Since you refuse to at least be open minded to keeping RA, I will not respond to your steadfast refusal to address reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 1 hour ago, xrade said: Hmmm.....Sterling Shepard, Sammy Watkins, OBJ, Adam Thielen?, Funchess, Emanuel Sanders?, Tyler Boyd. Are they all truly more important to their team than RA is to the Jets? Since you refuse to at least be open minded to keeping RA, I will not respond to your steadfast refusal to address reason. My reason is his talent doesn’t equal 10mill per. You’re talking to a guy that wants us to get WRs for our QB every offseason. So I don’t just want Robby gone. But he on talent alone is not worth 10mill. All those guys you named are more talented than him with the exception of Funchess. He is far from a complete WR. He in 4 years hasn’t gained a pound to be more physical, still consistently loses 50/50 balls, etc. I’m happy to keep him here just not at that price. He’s worth around 8mill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetskid007 Posted December 30, 2019 Author Share Posted December 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Bobby816 said: What’s a positive from last week and this week for the future of this team? What players played great to build off of? Burgess and Basham? Guys who are backups? Missing the point; you're looking at the dynamics of team through a microscopic lens. We all have jobs, and we all want to get rewarded for our work - many times nonfinancially. Wins are the reward, especially in a lost season. Winning tough games helps build character, camaraderie, chemistry, and leadership. Have to keep in mind that the core of this team literally haven't done much winning at all in the 2, 3, 4 years they've spent here. Every win matters when you speak of building a culture. You may take more of an analytical approach, but I personally agree to disagree. Winning matters. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrade Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Perhaps we are looking at it from different angles. I would like to see the Jets competitive and vie for a playoff spot next year. Allowing RA to move on leaves us a hole that may not be filled next year. While I would most certainly like to see sustained success, I do not think we are that far off if we just get a good OL such that we can’t begin that next year. Like I have said before, RA > $10 million is no good. $10 or less I can live with. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 44 minutes ago, jetskid007 said: Missing the point; you're looking at the dynamics of team through a microscopic lens. We all have jobs, and we all want to get rewarded for our work - many times nonfinancially. Wins are the reward, especially in a lost season. Winning tough games helps build character, camaraderie, chemistry, and leadership. Have to keep in mind that the core of this team literally haven't done much winning at all in the 2, 3, 4 years they've spent here. Every win matters when you speak of building a culture. You may take more of an analytical approach, but I personally agree to disagree. Winning matters. I won’t say winning doesn’t matter. But you want to see growth and positive from those wins. And we can’t say that about the way the season ended. We won ugly games with no one really looking good. Yes that’s great for confidence and culture but not good for the actual future. On the field it still looked bad. Even if it was lucky wins. We aren’t going to play a teams backup and 4th string QBs every week to give us false hope. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJets4716 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 5 hours ago, Bianconero said: It'd be very #Jets to take away Mark Sanchez' favorite weapons then Sam Darnold's back to back Resigning Robby should not be a question Robbie is ok. But wants elite money. And Sam struggled more once his top tes got injured, he loved throwing to griffin and Herndon. I bet Darnold would love a big body wr who catches contested passes and is reliable. He was even liking throwing to Thomas, before he got injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJets4716 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Anyone who thinks that Anderson is better than Parker should really rewatch their tapes. Parker helps the QB out, Fitzpatrick chucks it up and Parker makes contested grabs. Parker played like a stud this year, like a #1 WR. Parker is a much better WR than Anderson, not close. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChad Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 (edited) Brian Flores totally deserves at least one COTY vote for getting that Dolphins team to 5 wins, including this last one in Gillette to force the Pats to play on Wild Card Weekend. And the NFL will be a far more boring place when Fitzmagic eventually retires. And hey, we didn't end up being the only team to lose to the Bengals. That's nice. I know Kitchens was terrible, and promoting him was clearly a mistake, but I'm still a little surprised that they fired him after the one season. I mean, yeah, he sucked, but you can't hire a guy like that with so little actual experience and not expect growing pains. That said, with guys like Rivera and McCarthy available, they're probably making the right call. Edited December 30, 2019 by TheChad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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