Power Rankings and MVP Race Thread (final)

[evilflamingo]

AFC East (Pretty easy. One great team, one middle of the pack and two crap ones)
Bills
Dolphins
Jets
Patriots

AFC North (In another division, I'd consider moving down both the Browns and Ravens a notch but someone needs to make the playoffs so here we are) 
Bengals
Browns
Ravens
Steelers

AFC South (Four competent teams with issues that needs to be ironed out to take another step, will be an interesting division to follow)
Colts
Jaguars
Texans
Titans

AFC West (Look at all them colors!)
Broncos
Chargers
Chiefs
Raiders

NFC East (Two possible contenders, two crap teams) 
Cowboys
Eagles
Giants
Redskins

NFC North (Probably the division with the highest overall quality)  
Bears
Lions
Packers
Vikings

NFC South (Lots of colors again!) 
Buccaneers
Falcons
Panthers
Saints

NFC West (Ranking is tight between the top three teams with the Cardinals a fair bit behind) 
Cardinals
49ers
Rams
Seahawks

[SBLIII]

1. New England Patriots

2. Kansas City Chiefs

3. New Orleans Saints

4. Dallas Cowboys

5. Chicago Bears

6. Green Bay Packers

7. Philadelphia Eagles

8. San Francisco 49ers

9. Los Angeles Rams

10. Buffalo Bills

11. Detroit Lions

12. Seattle Seahawks

13. Cleveland Browns

14. Minnesota Vikings

15. Baltimore Ravens

16. Houston Texans

17. Los Angeles Chargers

18. Tennessee Titans

19. Jacksonville Jaguars

20. Carolina Panthers

21. Tampa Bay Buccaneers

22. Oakland Raiders

23. Indianapolis Colts

24. Atlanta Falcons

25. New York Giants

26. Pittsburgh Steelers

27. Denver Broncos

28. Arizona Cardinals

29. Cincinnati Bengals

30. New York Jets

31. Washington Redskins

32. Miami Dolphins

 

 

MVP watch:

 

1. Patrick Mahomes

2. Khalil Mack

3. Christian McCaffrey

4. Dak Prescott

5. Tom Brady

6. Lamar Jackson

7. Shaquil Barrett

8. Russell Wilson

9. Carson Wentz

10. Aaron Rodgers

[DoleINGout]

On 9/18/2019 at 11:27 AM, DoleINGout said:

SB Favorite:

1. Pats

SB Contender:

2. Chiefs

3. Cowboys

4. Saints

5. Eagles

6. Chargers

Playoff Contender:

7. 49ers

8. Vikings

9. Seahawks

10. Lions

Competitive:

11. Rams

12. Packers

13. Texans

14. Bills

15. Titans

16. Browns

17. Colts

18. Ravens

 

The rest.

 

19. Panthers

20. Buccaneers

22. Bears

23. Bengals

24. Falcons

25. Jaguars

26. Broncos

27. Raiders

28. Steelers

29. Giants

30. Cardinals

31. Jets

 

Pushover:

32. Dolphins

 

MVP:

1. Deshaun Watson

2. Tom Brady

3. Khalil Mack

4. Patrick Mahomes

5. Russell Wilson

6. Phillip Rivers

7. Carson Wentz

8. Lamar Jackson

9. Aaron Rodgers

10. Dak Prescott

Week 4 going on week 5

Edited October 1, 2019 by DoleINGout

[SmittyBacall]

1 hour ago, SBLIII said:

23. Indianapolis Colts

Too low.

1 hour ago, SBLIII said:

28. Arizona Cardinals

Too high.

[Matts4313]

From /u/mikebiox on Reddit:

Team	Wapo	BI	Y!	B/R	CBS	USA	NFL	ESPN	Reddit	Avg	SD	538
1	New England	1		1	1	1	1	1	1		1.0	0.0	2
2	Kansas City	2		2	2	2	2	2	2		2.0	0.0	1
3	New Orleans	4		3	3	4	3	3	3		3.3	0.5	3
4	Dallas	8		5	4	5	6	4	5		5.3	1.4	5
5	San Francisco	6		7	9	3	8	7	8		6.9	2.0	11
6	Chicago	3		8	7	10	7	5	9		7.0	2.4	7
7	Green Bay	10		6	5	8	5	9	6		7.0	2.0	10
8	LA Rams	7		4	8	7	14	8	4		7.4	3.4	4
9	Seattle	5		9	6	6	17	10	7		8.6	4.1	9
10	Philadelphia	9		11	10	11	9	6	11		9.6	1.8	6
11	Buffalo	12		10	14	9	11	11	12		11.3	1.6	20
12	LA Chargers	14		15	13	13	10	12	16		13.3	2.0	8
13	Cleveland	11		12	12	14	15	14	17		13.6	2.1	16
14	Detroit	19		18	16	12	4	13	15		13.9	5.0	19
15	Baltimore	15		16	11	15	16	16	10		14.1	2.5	12
16	Minnesota	24		13	17	19	12	19	14		16.9	4.2	14
17	Carolina	16		14	19	16	18	17	20		17.1	2.0	13
18	Houston	20		17	15	24	19	15	13		17.6	3.7	17
19	Tampa Bay	13		20	22	22	13	21	21		18.9	4.1	21
20	Jacksonville	18		21	20	20	20	18	22		19.9	1.5	18
21	Indianapolis	23		19	18	18	24	20	19		20.1	2.4	22
22	Tennessee	21		22	21	23	21	22	18		21.1	1.6	15
23	NY Giants	17		24	23	21	25	23	25		22.6	2.8	27
24	Oakland	22		23	25	17	23	24	24		22.6	2.6	24
25	Pittsburgh	25		25	24	25	22	26	26		24.7	1.4	26
26	Atlanta	26		26	26	26	26	25	23		25.4	1.1	23
27	Denver	27		27	28	28	28	28	27		27.6	0.5	28
28	Arizona	28		28	27	29	29	29	28		28.3	0.8	31
29	Cincinnati	30		29	30	27	30	27	29		28.9	1.3	30
30	NY Jets	29		30	31	31	27	30	30		29.7	1.4	25
31	Washington	31		31	29	30	31	31	31		30.6	0.8	29
32	Miami	32		32	32	32	32	32	32		32.0	0.0	32

 

[Matts4313]

Thats not formatted perfectly, but you get the general point

[RandyMossIsBoss]

 

1. Patriots 5-0 (--) 
2. Chiefs 4-1 (--) 
3. Saints 4-1 (↑ 1)  
4. 49ers 4-0 (↑ 6)   First real test of the season, and they delivered big time, just dominating the trenches. Still, I want to see a bit more before moving them to SB favorites.
5. Packers 4-1 (↑ 1)
6. Seahawks 4-1 (↑ 7)  Got their 1st win over a competitive team, offense looks to better than it has in awhile.
7. Eagles 3-2 (--) 
8. Rams 3-2 (↓ 5) A consecutive loss will get you this kind of drop, but they were in position to win that game and on paper are as dangerous as any. Next week will be very telling.
9. Cowboys 3-2 (↓ 4) 
10. Colts 3-2 (↑ 7)  Very hot and cold team so far, a week after a bad loss vs Raiders they shock the Chiefs by dominating the trenches.
11. Lions 2-1-1 (↓ 3) 
12. Vikings 3-2 (↑ 2) 
13. Texans 3-2 (↑ 2) 
14. Panthers 3-2 (↑ 4) 
15. Ravens 3-2 (↓ 3)  I think the lone team to drop on a win. I know, divisional games never come easy, but Steelers were onto their 3rd QB, and this team has some major concerns.
16. Bears 3-2 (↓ 7)  
17. Bills 4-1 (↑ 4) I know I know, pretty disrespectful to have a 4-1 team at 17, but what can I say, I just do not buy this team. Very good D, but offense will stop them from beating good team. Unfortunately bye next week, then the Dolphins, so they will have to wait until Eagles game at end of month to prove me wrong.
18. Browns 2-3 (↓ 7)
19. Raiders 3-2 (↑ 5) 
20. Chargers 2-3 (↓ 4)   
21. Buccaneers 2-3 (↓ 2) 
22. Titans 2-3 (↓ 2)  
23. Jaguars 2-3 (↓ 1) 
24. Cardinals 1-3-1 (↑ 3) 
25. Steelers 1-4 (↓ 2) 
26. Broncos 1-4 (↑ 2)
27. Falcons 1-4 (↓ 2) 
28. Giants 2-3 (↓ 2) 
29. Bengals 0-5 (↑ 1)
30. Jets 0-4 (↓ 1)  
31. Redskins 0-5 (--)  
32. Dolphins 0-5 (--)

 

 

Early MVP Watch 

1. Russell Wilson (↑ 3)
2. Patrick Mahomes (↓ 1)
3. Christian McCaffery (NR)
4. Tom Brady (--)
5. Deshaun Watson (↑ 2)

HMs- Carson Wentz, Dak Prescott, Dalvin Cook, Michael Thomas, Shaquil Barrett, Aaron Rodgers, Matthew Stafford, Lamar Jackson, 

[BayRaider]

I wouldn't even put Mahomes second right now. Russell Wilson, Tom Brady, Patrick Mahomes.

[nextsuperstar1]

3 hours ago, RandyMossIsBoss said:

 

 

 

Early MVP Watch 

1. Russell Wilson (↑ 3)
2. Patrick Mahomes (↓ 1)
3. Christian McCaffery (NR)
4. Tom Brady (--)
5. Deshaun Watson (↑ 2)

HMs- Carson Wentz, Dak Prescott, Dalvin Cook, Michael Thomas, Shaquil Barrett, Aaron Rodgers, Matthew Stafford, Lamar Jackson, 

 

Do not see a non-QB Realistically winning MVP in this era. I suppose if McCaffery were to gain 2500 total yards from scrimmage he might deserve it, but I’m still not sure he wins it. For example in 2009 Chris Jonhson gained over 2500 yards from scrimmage and  Manning (undeservingly, I might add) won the MVP, which probably should have gone to Drew Brees (again not putting even Johnson in top two). 

Edited October 8, 2019 by nextsuperstar1

[iknowcool]

5 hours ago, nextsuperstar1 said:

Do not see a non-QB Realistically winning MVP in this era. I suppose if McCaffery were to gain 2500 total yards from scrimmage he might deserve it, but I’m still not sure he wins it.

I mean, he’s on pace for almost 2800 YFS and 22 touchdowns.

A RB could definitely win it in this era, it would just obviously take a dominant season + QBs falling off a tad.  We aren’t THAT far off of Peterson winning MVP and CMC is on pace to top that season by almost 500 yards and 9 TDs.  

[SBLIII]

1. Patriots

2. Chiefs

3. Saints

4. 49ers

5. Packers

6. Eagles

7. Cowboys

8. Seahawks

9. Bills

10. Rams

11. Lions

12. Texans

13. Bears

14. Colts

15. Vikings

16. Ravens

17. Panthers

18. Raiders

19. Jaguars

20.  Titans

21. Browns

22. Chargers

23. Buccaneers

24. Broncos

25. Steelers

26. Falcons

27. Giants

28. Cardinals

29. Bengals

30. Jets

31. Redskins

32. Dolphins

 

 

MVP race:

1 Russell Wilson

2 Patrick Mahomes

3 Christian McCaffrey

4 Tom Brady

5 Deshaun Watson

 

[childofpudding]

8 hours ago, BayRaider said:

I wouldn't even put Mahomes second right now. Russell Wilson, Tom Brady, Patrick Mahomes.

Switch CMC for Brady and I'm with you. I think CMC and Mahomes are interchangeable at 2/3 but Wilson is definitely the leader at the moment.

[childofpudding]

Top tier is Patriots, 49ers and Chiefs. Below that is a bunch of teams that include the Seahawks, Packers, Saints, Ravens, Colts, and Eagles. And then another tier with the Bills, Texans, Raiders, Cowboys, Vikings, Bears, Lions and Rams. And then the rest.

Seahawks, Packers and Saints maybe deserve their own tier between the 1st and 2nd tiers.

[The BILLievers]

10 hours ago, RandyMossIsBoss said:

 

1. Patriots 5-0 (--) 
2. Chiefs 4-1 (--) 
3. Saints 4-1 (↑ 1)  
4. 49ers 4-0 (↑ 6)   First real test of the season, and they delivered big time, just dominating the trenches. Still, I want to see a bit more before moving them to SB favorites.
5. Packers 4-1 (↑ 1)
6. Seahawks 4-1 (↑ 7)  Got their 1st win over a competitive team, offense looks to better than it has in awhile.
7. Eagles 3-2 (--) 
8. Rams 3-2 (↓ 5) A consecutive loss will get you this kind of drop, but they were in position to win that game and on paper are as dangerous as any. Next week will be very telling.
9. Cowboys 3-2 (↓ 4) 
10. Colts 3-2 (↑ 7)  Very hot and cold team so far, a week after a bad loss vs Raiders they shock the Chiefs by dominating the trenches.
11. Lions 2-1-1 (↓ 3) 
12. Vikings 3-2 (↑ 2) 
13. Texans 3-2 (↑ 2) 
14. Panthers 3-2 (↑ 4) 
15. Ravens 3-2 (↓ 3)  I think the lone team to drop on a win. I know, divisional games never come easy, but Steelers were onto their 3rd QB, and this team has some major concerns.
16. Bears 3-2 (↓ 7)  
17. Bills 4-1 (↑ 4) I know I know, pretty disrespectful to have a 4-1 team at 17, but what can I say, I just do not buy this team. Very good D, but offense will stop them from beating good team. Unfortunately bye next week, then the Dolphins, so they will have to wait until Eagles game at end of month to prove me wrong.
18. Browns 2-3 (↓ 7)
19. Raiders 3-2 (↑ 5) 
20. Chargers 2-3 (↓ 4)   
21. Buccaneers 2-3 (↓ 2) 
22. Titans 2-3 (↓ 2)  
23. Jaguars 2-3 (↓ 1) 
24. Cardinals 1-3-1 (↑ 3) 
25. Steelers 1-4 (↓ 2) 
26. Broncos 1-4 (↑ 2)
27. Falcons 1-4 (↓ 2) 
28. Giants 2-3 (↓ 2) 
29. Bengals 0-5 (↑ 1)
30. Jets 0-4 (↓ 1)  
31. Redskins 0-5 (--)  
32. Dolphins 0-5 (--)

 

 

Early MVP Watch 

1. Russell Wilson (↑ 3)
2. Patrick Mahomes (↓ 1)
3. Christian McCaffery (NR)
4. Tom Brady (--)
5. Deshaun Watson (↑ 2)

HMs- Carson Wentz, Dak Prescott, Dalvin Cook, Michael Thomas, Shaquil Barrett, Aaron Rodgers, Matthew Stafford, Lamar Jackson, 

Sounds like you thought the Bills were bad before the season and won't get off that hill lol. 

4-1 and our one loss we arguably could've beat the Patriots who you have #1. 16-10 game but whatever you say man. If we finish 10-6 or better will we still be your 17th ranked team in the NFL? 

Also Josh Allen has 3 game winning drives this year so he might have his knuckle head moments but in the 4th quarter when we need him he's very clutch. 

Edited October 8, 2019 by The BILLievers

[Danger]

Tom Brady has no business in the top 3 of the MVP race right now. He's played nothing but the easiest teams, and has had a defense that's made things a cake walk for him (not that he needs it, but that's not the point). He's also 12th in passer rating.