Ray Reed Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Obviously way too early. But Baker needs to tone down the interceptions...7 in his last 3 games. Could become a problem for that team...especially in games that aren't 20 point wins or 30 point losses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMossIsBoss Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Here’s my problem here. If you asked this poll in August, it would be laughed at. 80+% in favor of Baker no doubt, probably bigger. 2 games (really just 1 since most votes were probably cast before week 2).... 2 god damn games, and suddenly it’s a close battle. Tells you 1 of 2 things... pro Lamar crowd didn’t bother voting/voicing opinion in the past but are now coming out full force while Baker crowd is cowering due to recent results, or FF is just as part of hot take culture as ESPN (if you’re changing your opinion on a player from 2 games... smh) Either way my only conclusion is FF polls are worthless and that is sad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawgX Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 9 minutes ago, RandyMossIsBoss said: Here’s my problem here. If you asked this poll in August, it would be laughed at. 80+% in favor of Baker no doubt, probably bigger. 2 games (really just 1 since most votes were probably cast before week 2).... 2 god damn games, and suddenly it’s a close battle. Tells you 1 of 2 things... pro Lamar crowd didn’t bother voting/voicing opinion in the past but are now coming out full force while Baker crowd is cowering due to recent results, or FF is just as part of hot take culture as ESPN (if you’re changing your opinion on a player from 2 games... smh) Either way my only conclusion is FF polls are worthless and that is sad! That's been the case for quite awhile now, haha. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmen Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 32 minutes ago, Bonanza23 said: I along with many other fans (not just Browns fans) are basing it off his college play, you know about the only decent sample size he has. Just so you know where I stand, it’s far too early to tell exactly how good either Baker or Lamar are going to be. It’s very foolish with the small sample size. It would be like saying a good showing in preseason is enough to crown a qb. @Gmen One could argue that even a year is too small of a sample size. You can just get lucky and face the league’s worst defenses like Mayfield did last year. Atlanta, Kansas City, Tampa bay, Cincinnati twice - all bottom 5 defenses last year. When he faces halfway respectable defenses he looks ordinary. Browns fans were trying to hype Baker for MVP hype this offseason. Keep dreaming. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonanza23 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 22 minutes ago, Gmen said: One could argue that even a year is too small of a sample size. You can just get lucky and face the league’s worst defenses like Mayfield did last year. Atlanta, Kansas City, Tampa bay, Cincinnati twice - all bottom 5 defenses last year. When he faces halfway respectable defenses he looks ordinary. Browns fans were trying to hype Baker for MVP hype this offseason. Keep dreaming. Better than hyping him off preseason 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmen Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Just now, Bonanza23 said: Better than hyping him off preseason 😉 Baker is carrying his preseason into the regular season. So maybe it’s not as irrelevant as you hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonanza23 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 9 minutes ago, Gmen said: Baker is carrying his preseason into the regular season. So maybe it’s not as irrelevant as you hope. Not worried about Baker. Wake me up mid season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Ramster Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Bonanza23 said: Not worried about Baker. Wake me up mid season. Just wait till week 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11sanchez11 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 10 hours ago, DawgX said: a team that just had the first overall pick and had the 26th worst defense in the league last year. we finished 17th in defensive dvoa last year our offense was just so terrible they were always on the field we also added swearinger, hicks, suggs, & byron murphy all who have played really well so far tho we were w/o pp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11sanchez11 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 5 hours ago, RandyMossIsBoss said: Tells you 1 of 2 things... pro Lamar crowd didn’t bother voting/voicing opinion in the past but are now coming out full force while Baker crowd is cowering due to recent results yes but I have been pro lamar since his draft and have stated it multiple times since, tho I have no reason to talk about him/the Ravens since you know, they aren't my team so I don't really care that much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSURacerDT55 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Lamar Jackson for MVP still or nah? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Roshi Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 9 minutes ago, MSURacerDT55 said: Lamar Jackson for MVP still or nah? Running backs never win MVPs anymore. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brooks1957 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 18 minutes ago, Don Roshi said: Running backs never win MVPs anymore. They're not good passers either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.10.E Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 I will not respond to the trolls. I will not respond to the trolls. I will not respond to the trolls. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wackywabbit Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 22 minutes ago, M.10.E said: I will not respond to the trolls. I will not respond to the trolls. I will not respond to the trolls. No worries man, Lamar's already better than Baker and two years younger. After decades of tanking for draft picks the Browns finally have talent in their roster, but Baker's going to hold them back from doing anything meaningful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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