patriotsheatyan Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Four years ago after the 15-1 aberration, or even after 11-5 two years ago, they seemed untouchable. Do you think they could be out of jobs if they fail to make the playoffs again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir L Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 They need to rebuild Trade newton and get a rookie qb Tank4justin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footbull3196 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 It sure feels like Rivera is gone after this season. I think Cam will get one more chance with the coach of his choice in 2020 before they’ll pull the plug on him too if it doesn’t yield the results they want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodjahs12 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 I doubt Newton even makes it through the season without landing on IR. There’s no way you can take as many hits as he did tonight and stay healthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 15 minutes ago, patriotsheatyan said: Do you think they could be out of jobs if they fail to make the playoffs again? Stop it. Rivera's name is already cemented (ideally a DC) and a talent like Cam,, especially with his skillset, will never have a problem finding a place in the NFL. And that's coming from someone who likes Cam but also understand his current state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NVRamsFan Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 I get the feeling Cam retires when this contract is up, or after the year possibly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 The problem with Cam is this league rewards and succeeds based on efficient QB play. Good comp %, good TD:INT ratio, good ANY/A. Cam has always been terrible at those, his MVP season being an outlier. If his running is gone, his usefulness is very limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabbs4u Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 44 minutes ago, NVRamsFan said: I get the feeling Cam retires when this contract is up, or after the year possibly. Have you not seen his Game day wardrobes? The Hats and Scarves alone will force him to play several more years to collect pay checks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Will Grier will start before the end of the year. Tons of people thought this dude was the 2nd best QB in the draft. The home town will call for Touchdown Jesus at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchie Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Newton has been a below average QB for most of his career, but as usual, he'll get the benefit of the doubt, his failures will be blamed on someone else, and his obvious ineptitude as a passer will be downplayed or overlooked completely.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zithers2 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 10 minutes ago, BayRaider said: Will Grier will start before the end of the year. Tons of people thought this dude was the 2nd best QB in the draft. The home town will call for Touchdown Jesus at some point. Will Grier might be worse than Jimmy Clausen. He was horrid in the preseason. The worst QB play I've seen from a Panther, easily, since that 2010 season. Rivera is hopefully fired after this year, along with Marty Hurney, and the team shifts gears to being offensive-minded given that we have decent tools to have a fun offense between Moore, Samuel, Olsen, CMC, and Cam. And this might sound weird but Cam's game tonight was actually kind of encouraging. I haven't seen him sling it like that in years. I thought his shoulder was dead forever. I think he just needs to work through it and get his timing and rythym on those throws fixed. He had more zip and air underneath his passes that I'd seen since early 2016 probably. He's been dinking and dunking for most of his recent career and he just needs to get his groove back. Wet ball and god awful OLine play (where were the screens and chips to help out Daryl Williams?) probably didn't help either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMossIsBoss Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 42 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: The problem with Cam is this league rewards and succeeds based on efficient QB play. Good comp %, good TD:INT ratio, good ANY/A. Cam has always been terrible at those, his MVP season being an outlier. If his running is gone, his usefulness is very limited. Yup... and even then, the only outlier there was the TD/INT ratio wasn't it? Fluke year as far as I'm concerned. Modern offenses have little room for spotty throwers, not when WC concepts have infiltrated every playbook. You can make it work when you have a revolutionary running QB like Cam, and they made it work for some time, but he is breaking down, and that is just going to leave you with a pretty low tier QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypher Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 I think Cam's body is just cooked. He's breaking down and it's sad as hell to watch. That arm is just fading every game. By halftime it's gassed. I sincerely hope he walks away like Luck did if for no other reason than his health. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Cam is lucky to have his MVP season because the rest of his career looks....oof Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate QBR Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk% 4QC GWD AV Career 124 123 68-54-1 2346 3929 59.7 28708 182 4.6 108 2.7 91 7.3 7.0 12.2 231.5 86.3 288 2179 6.29 6.00 6.8 15 17 1 2011* 22 CAR QB 1 16 16 6-10-0 310 517 60.0 4051 21 4.1 17 3.3 91 7.8 7.2 13.1 253.2 84.5 58.1 35 260 6.87 6.24 6.3 1 1 19 2012 23 CAR QB 1 16 16 7-9-0 280 485 57.7 3869 19 3.9 12 2.5 82 8.0 7.6 13.8 241.8 86.2 58.3 36 244 6.96 6.65 6.9 1 1 16 2013* 24 CAR QB 1 16 16 12-4-0 292 473 61.7 3379 24 5.1 13 2.7 79 7.1 6.9 11.6 211.2 88.8 64.3 43 336 5.90 5.69 8.3 4 4 16 2014 25 CAR QB 1 14 14 5-8-1 262 448 58.5 3127 18 4.0 12 2.7 51 7.0 6.6 11.9 223.4 82.1 57.3 38 300 5.82 5.45 7.8 3 2 12 2015*+ 26 CAR QB 1 16 16 15-1-0 296 495 59.8 3837 35 7.1 10 2.0 74 7.8 8.3 13.0 239.8 99.4 67.0 33 284 6.73 7.20 6.3 3 4 20 2016 27 CAR QB 1 15 14 6-8-0 270 510 52.9 3509 19 3.7 14 2.7 88 6.9 6.4 13.0 233.9 75.8 48.0 36 277 5.92 5.46 6.6 11 2017 28 CAR QB 1 16 16 11-5-0 291 492 59.1 3302 22 4.5 16 3.3 64 6.7 6.1 11.3 206.4 80.7 53.3 35 242 5.81 5.28 6.6 1 3 15 2018 29 CAR QB 1 14 14 6-8-0 320 471 67.9 3395 24 5.1 13 2.8 82 7.2 7.0 10.6 242.5 94.2 57.4 29 213 6.36 6.15 5.8 2 2 13 2019 30 CAR QB 1 1 1 0-1-0 25 38 65.8 239 0 0.0 1 2.6 17 6.3 5.1 9.6 239.0 72.1 3 23 5.27 4.17 7.3 That's what statisticians call "an outlier". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuskieTitan Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Cam gave up on his professional career when he lost that Super Bowl. Since then, he's cared more about his fashion and appearance than his performance on the field. And that's why the Panthers are 0-2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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