turtle28 Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Doc Draper said: This is why he’s the worst owner in nfl history But he's not. The Browns owner is. And if we start winning bc of the moves Dan made this offseason, people will be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Draper Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 (edited) Nah, got to own the team longer than he has how many moves/decisions has Dan made? how many were successful successful moves / total moves = worst owner of all time Edited March 12, 2020 by Doc Draper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 6 hours ago, Doc Draper said: Nah, got to own the team longer than he has how many moves/decisions has Dan made? how many were successful successful moves / total moves = worst owner of all time I think your view is clouded bc you hate him for what he's done to a one greatly run franchise under Cooke, but he’s not the worst owners. He’s no where near the top half, but he's not the worst. Definitely in the bottom 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT14 Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 2 hours ago, turtle28 said: Definitely in the bottom 2. This is the bare minimum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins212689 Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 11 hours ago, turtle28 said: How will you be sure? There's never a sure thing. Yet it's a SURE THING Chase Young will live up to the hype? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Skins212689 said: Yet it's a SURE THING Chase Young will live up to the hype? Don't know, but I want him bc he's the best prospect. Edited March 12, 2020 by turtle28 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavar703 Posted March 13, 2020 Author Share Posted March 13, 2020 11 hours ago, MikeT14 said: This is the bare minimum. Haslam and Snyder are far and away the worst owners in football. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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turtle28 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, HTTRDynasty said: Am I seeing it right that Chase has the highest PFF grade of any of the players but they still have him behind Burrow, Baker & Kyler? Makes no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 (edited) 59 minutes ago, lavar703 said: Haslam and Snyder are far and away the worst owners in football. Not debatable. Snyder has made the playoffs twice this decade, twice last decade and in 99 as owner - even though that was a team he inherited - and Haslam’s Browns teams have never even been to the playoffs. So to me, it's pretty easy to say Haslam is the worst. Edited March 13, 2020 by turtle28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavar703 Posted March 13, 2020 Author Share Posted March 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, turtle28 said: Am I seeing it right that Chase has the highest PFF grade of any of the players but they still have him behind Burrow, Baker & Kyler? Makes no sense. PFF is terrible. They need to go the way of the dodo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripsean21 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 22 minutes ago, turtle28 said: Am I seeing it right that Chase has the highest PFF grade of any of the players but they still have him behind Burrow, Baker & Kyler? Makes no sense. I loved baker as a prospect but by no means did I have him up there with my grade on Murray and my grade on Burrow or above Chase. I think there’s a slight bias because he had instant sucsess in the league. He has holes in his game but he is a gamer almost like Rivers. But he had holes in his game for sure 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naptownskinsfan Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 On 3/11/2020 at 11:09 PM, Doc Draper said: Nah, got to own the team longer than he has how many moves/decisions has Dan made? how many were successful successful moves / total moves = worst owner of all time Haslam and Snyder are tied at the bottom IMO. At least Snyder got some good traction out of the Gibbs 2.0 run. Haslam has yet to get much, and he even did a move that's been panned from the beginning by bringing in baseball guys to run a football front office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, ripsean21 said: I loved baker as a prospect but by no means did I have him up there with my grade on Murray and my grade on Burrow or above Chase. I think there’s a slight bias because he had instant sucsess in the league. He has holes in his game but he is a gamer almost like Rivers. But he had holes in his game for sure Baker can play ball, but I still don’t like his attitude. I don’t think his attitude is conducive to winning in a team sport. A QB needs to be confident but not too cocky, Baker is on the wrong side of that ledger for me. He’s better than Johnny Manziel as a player clearly, but their attitudes are similar and I think when you’re the leader of 52 other guys that it rubs some people the wrong way and will create issues in the lockeroom. See last year. Edited March 13, 2020 by turtle28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, naptownskinsfan said: Haslam and Snyder are tied at the bottom IMO. At least Snyder got some good traction out of the Gibbs 2.0 run. Haslam has yet to get much, and he even did a move that's been panned from the beginning by bringing in baseball guys to run a football front office. Haslam is by far worse, but they’re both awful. Let’s just put it this way: The Redskins were: 62-97-1 in the last 10 years w/ 2 playoff appearances The Browns were: 42-117-1 with zero playoff appearances And, the browns last decade passed on Julio Jones & Carson Wentz. It's really not close. Browns fans gladly would’ve taken 4 playoff appearances this century - winning one game - over what they've had. Edited March 13, 2020 by turtle28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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