VigilantZombie Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Its primarily a coverage I would use on run plays because there is nothing protecting on the outer deep edges. It's a coverage that mostly would be used I'd say in short yardage situations where shallow passing is likely also. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlash Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 On 9/15/2019 at 6:23 PM, SirA1 said: Gap disciplines; in addition to all of the above I am going have Reader fill the A Gap. On 9/15/2019 at 6:23 PM, SirA1 said: Gap disciplines; in addition to all of the above I am going have Reader fill the A Gap. On 9/15/2019 at 6:23 PM, SirA1 said: The OLBs, like I said before I want them focused on what is in front of them so they're going to cover the D Gap, provide outside contain, and assist with rushes On 9/15/2019 at 6:23 PM, SirA1 said: The OLBs, like I said before I want them focused on what is in front of them so they're going to cover the C Gap and assist with rushes. I'm still getting through the defensive plan on this one, but for all the talk of game plan length I think I found a good compromise. Don't be so redundant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlash Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Really close game once I got through all of it. One thing I think is a big factor in this game is that 'Sport only has 1 real backup defensive lineman. I can't count putting Tiny Tim Williams on a 4-3 front. Going against a fast paced, talented, pass heavy attack and only having Jon Bullard to sub in for 3 guys I think that line is gassed in the second half. Even with a secondary I like a lot from the Reavers, I think OKCs QB is going to have all day to throw in crunch time. Okc 24-14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockey5djh Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Just got done reading the first half of the Williamsport gameplan. I'm going to get a beer and a nap and i'll be back for the second half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whicker Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 On 9/16/2019 at 4:09 PM, Counselor said: I wish OKC would feature Mark Andrews more than they do. 20 hours ago, DingoLadd said: I am also of this sentiment, granted they couldn't have expected him to blow up back to back weeks but he should replace one of the WRs in the lineup in future matchups because I think he's at least more of a threat than Sanders is. Overall not a fan of Williamsport here but this is closer than usual because of Stafford's meh performance this week and OKC's RB issues, I'd say Williamsport keeps this close because of their efficiency but eventually fail against a really good OKC defense. Andrews has yet to play more than 55% of his team’s offensive snaps and is not listed as the Raven’s starting TE. Quality over quantity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whicker Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 (edited) On 9/16/2019 at 3:11 PM, wwhickok said: Why Everyone else does I don’t like arguing. Well I do but I don’t. All I said was I don’t think you can shadow people all game while playing zone. Also O-line rotation is not a recommendation. Edited September 17, 2019 by Whicker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 3 hours ago, Whicker said: I don’t like arguing. Well I do but I don’t. All I said was I don’t think you can shadow people all game while playing zone. Also O-line rotation is not a recommendation. What's wrong with saying that? Those are fair points and frankly help me as someone who is trying to learn to gameplan better. I'm not exclusively running zone but still its something I didnt necessarily account for in my gameplan wording 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Let me make something clear cuz, I know sometimes I am a bit of a downer (I got meds for that lol) I dont mind losing as long as people are giving intelligent explanations. I'll have an issue when people start blind voting (if they do). I think my team matchups up well with OKC, but I dont have an issue with any of the arguements anyone has made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whicker Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 32 minutes ago, wwhickok said: What's wrong with saying that? Those are fair points and frankly help me as someone who is trying to learn to gameplan better. I'm not exclusively running zone but still its something I didnt necessarily account for in my gameplan wording I’ve just had confrontations with people in the past that I regret and given our situation at the time I felt like I’d go the extra mile and be very hateful. Helpful advice: Offensive line rotation is going to get you killed in this league. I’m surprised no one has mentioned it yet. Offensive linemen are expected to play 100% of snaps and you won’t get any “fatigue penalty” from anyone. Literally the only offensive line rotation that I’ve known IRL was last year with James Daniels and Eric Kush but that was about easing the more talented rookie into the offense rather than any kind of fatigue returns. The lack of continuity is only going to hurt against a good pass rush. The way to plan against pass rushers is either by chips/extra blocks from TE/RB, quick passes, or line sliding. If I were voting on this game from an objective stand point, I think this would keep you from maintaining those 12+ play drives you plan on having. Shadow coverage is a man-only thing. If you’re playing zone but have your CB shadowing someone, something is going to break down. What happens when the WR leaves the CB’s zone? When you say things like “Byron Jones is going to shadow Thielen all game” but then you run zone, it creates an impossible conflict, and it trends towards the write ups that I hate and criticize harshly. It makes it seem like you have this amazing defense that covers everything when in reality you just have a guy in two places at once. If it were possible, there would be no other defense used as you get the benefits of man without the weaknesses. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, Whicker said: I’ve just had confrontations with people in the past that I regret and given our situation at the time I felt like I’d go the extra mile and be very hateful. Helpful advice: Offensive line rotation is going to get you killed in this league. I’m surprised no one has mentioned it yet. Offensive linemen are expected to play 100% of snaps and you won’t get any “fatigue penalty” from anyone. Literally the only offensive line rotation that I’ve known IRL was last year with James Daniels and Eric Kush but that was about easing the more talented rookie into the offense rather than any kind of fatigue returns. The lack of continuity is only going to hurt against a good pass rush. The way to plan against pass rushers is either by chips/extra blocks from TE/RB, quick passes, or line sliding. If I were voting on this game from an objective stand point, I think this would keep you from maintaining those 12+ play drives you plan on having. Shadow coverage is a man-only thing. If you’re playing zone but have your CB shadowing someone, something is going to break down. What happens when the WR leaves the CB’s zone? When you say things like “Byron Jones is going to shadow Thielen all game” but then you run zone, it creates an impossible conflict, and it trends towards the write ups that I hate and criticize harshly. It makes it seem like you have this amazing defense that covers everything when in reality you just have a guy in two places at once. If it were possible, there would be no other defense used as you get the benefits of man without the weaknesses. Actually someone did mention the OL rotation and I thought I'd edited all of that out of my writeup. Clearly not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmad Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 OKC's pass rush is a beast that cannot be tamed except when I play them. Willaimsport with the excellent effort but they lack the firepower to keep up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Since I helped a little with Williamsport’s writeup (mostly giving some suggestions on the defensive side of the ball) I don’t think it’s right for me to vote in this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 11 hours ago, wwhickok said: Actually someone did mention the OL rotation and I thought I'd edited all of that out of my writeup. Clearly not I tried to help with the wording on the coverage stuff lol. You’ll learn. Already a big improvement on this gameplan than last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, Counselor said: I tried to help with the wording on the coverage stuff lol. You’ll learn. Already a big improvement on this gameplan than last. You did good. I just thought I corrected it all and didn't 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TedLavie Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 So from what I gathered from @wwhickok plan it's a bunch of different zone looks with 5-6 DBs, 2 LBs, 3-4 DL/Edge players, with blitzes on 45% of the snaps and a gap control DL? It that correct ww? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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