VikeManDan Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 I wonder if he'll hold out next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 46 minutes ago, VikeManDan said: I wonder if he'll hold out next year. I doubt it...he's smart enough to see what happened when Leveon Bell and Marvin Gordon tried that tactic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitehops Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 another thing to think about when it comes to ROI on extending cook this season. the top 8 running backs this season in terms of cap hit MISSED the playoffs. for that i'm not including mckinnon or lamar miller, who went on IR while their teams made the playoffs. meanwhile, having productive backs on cheap contracts has helped a lot of playoff teams: dalvin cook ($1.7 mil), derrick henry ($1.7 mil), chris carson ($661K), aaron jones ($695K). the teams that "splurged" on veteran running backs got guys that were reliable and relatively cheap: james white and dion lewis make less than $5 million and mark ingram's cap hit is $3.3 mil this season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 On 1/2/2020 at 11:17 AM, VikeManDan said: I wonder if he'll hold out next year. He has no leverage to do so. He’s never healthy and he’s only been good for maybe half a season in his career. Cook really hasn’t been relevant since November this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VikeManDan Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 6 minutes ago, vikingsrule said: He has no leverage to do so. He’s never healthy and he’s only been good for maybe half a season in his career. Cook really hasn’t been relevant since November this year. I agree with you that he doesn’t. Hopefully he wants to really prove himself next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Illadelegend215 Posted April 2, 2020 Author Share Posted April 2, 2020 So guys, what do you think happens with the chef? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 2 hours ago, Illadelegend215 said: So guys, what do you think happens with the chef? I do think he'll get extended (much to the chagrin of many people here), but I do think it'll be at a more reasonable cost than the likes of Elliott, Gurley and Johnson. Unlike the management of those franchises, I think Spielman and Co are a lot more sensible than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 9 minutes ago, swede700 said: I think Spielman and Co are a lot more sensible than that. When has Spielman and Co not given a guy top tier money on a 2nd contract? If they extend Cook, I’d be surprised if it’s not a top 5 running back contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, SemperFeist said: When has Spielman and Co not given a guy top tier money on a 2nd contract? If they extend Cook, I’d be surprised if it’s not a top 5 running back contract. The great majority of their defensive players did not get top tier money on their 2nd contracts. They got very good and competitive deals, but they weren't top tier. Often they were dwarfed a year or 2 later. Hell, Harry's not even a top-10 paid safety any longer and he was extended only 4 years ago. $9M per year would put him in the top 5...and as far as I'm concerned, that's awfully reasonable. Edited April 2, 2020 by swede700 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CriminalMind Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 4 hours ago, SemperFeist said: When has Spielman and Co not given a guy top tier money on a 2nd contract? If they extend Cook, I’d be surprised if it’s not a top 5 running back contract. I'm expecting top 5 money as well, not that I would approve of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CriminalMind Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 4 hours ago, swede700 said: The great majority of their defensive players did not get top tier money on their 2nd contracts. They got very good and competitive deals, but they weren't top tier. Often they were dwarfed a year or 2 later. Hell, Harry's not even a top-10 paid safety any longer and he was extended only 4 years ago. $9M per year would put him in the top 5...and as far as I'm concerned, that's awfully reasonable. Well you can't compare a contact 4 years ago to today's AAV contracts. I'm sure Harry's contact was top 5 safety, after his rookie deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 1 minute ago, CriminalMind said: Well you can't compare a contact 4 years ago to today's AAV contracts. I'm sure Harry's contact was top 5 safety, after his rookie deal. You can when, in 4 years potentially a top-5 contract for a RB now may be outside of the top 10. While the salaries for top RBs haven't elevated as quickly as other positions, it's still going up on average. We talk about how teams like the 49ers don't pay any big name RBs...that's a mistaken theory...they spend more money on that position than any other team in the entire NFL, while the Vikings are #24 (and only 2 other teams below them actually made the playoffs last year). The Vikings actually have been one of the most balanced teams in the NFL in positional spending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 28 minutes ago, swede700 said: You can when, in 4 years potentially a top-5 contract for a RB now may be outside of the top 10. While the salaries for top RBs haven't elevated as quickly as other positions, it's still going up on average. We talk about how teams like the 49ers don't pay any big name RBs...that's a mistaken theory...they spend more money on that position than any other team in the entire NFL, while the Vikings are #24 (and only 2 other teams below them actually made the playoffs last year). The Vikings actually have been one of the most balanced teams in the NFL in positional spending. I’m still not on the side to support Cook getting a contract extension, period. Forget top 5 money, or even top 10. It’s hard for me to see justification for a player who simply doesn’t stay healthy and even in his best year last year, really struggled down the stretch. I’d let him play out his rookie contract and negotiate next year when he’s a free agent. Cook isn’t the type of player for me that I want to prevent from hitting the open market. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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