.Buzz Posted December 26, 2019 Author Share Posted December 26, 2019 (edited) 50 minutes ago, DuvalsKing said: đââď¸I have question if youâve seen it this year and it didnât work. Why continue to pay players for subpar play?  To me it seems that if you have a contract that youâre able to get out of then you go ahead and get out of it. It seems like they should re-evaluate and cut sling by paying vet minimums to go 4-12 than pay the roster we currently have to go 6-10 next year Iâm just saying đ¤ˇââď¸.  This team is not going to be any good next year I donât care how you slice it. Exactly. You can just try and find a gem or someone player equivently to what they're worth on the FA market instead of paying Bouye and co. as if he's a #1 corner when he's not. Edited December 26, 2019 by .Buzz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tugboat Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 9 hours ago, DuvalsKing said: đââď¸I have question if youâve seen it this year and it didnât work. Why continue to pay players for subpar play?  To me it seems that if you have a contract that youâre able to get out of then you go ahead and get out of it. It seems like they should re-evaluate and cut sling by paying vet minimums to go 4-12 than pay the roster we currently have to go 6-10 next year Iâm just saying đ¤ˇââď¸.  This team is not going to be any good next year I donât care how you slice it. I mean...the point is, don't go 4-12 or 6-10. Build a team to actually win for once. You can turn a team around a hurry, even while carrying some mediocre overpaid players on the books these days. If you've got a bunch of slick moves lined up to replace Bouye with a similar player at less salary, without expending draft picks and leaning on a rookie CB...sure, go for it. But if you actually want to go into a season with the intention of winning games next year...we just have way too many holes to patch already, to go on and create another one for fun by cutting a decent but overpaid player. It's like...make cap space if you have a plan to actually use it to make the team better. Don't just cut the guy because you can, or for the sake of saving a few pennies while sucking. Ultimately...If the team is gonna suck either way, i want Khan to feel the entirety of the weight of the bad decisions his people have made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuvalsKing Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, Tugboat said: I mean...the point is, don't go 4-12 or 6-10. Build a team to actually win for once. You can turn a team around a hurry, even while carrying some mediocre overpaid players on the books these days. If you've got a bunch of slick moves lined up to replace Bouye with a similar player at less salary, without expending draft picks and leaning on a rookie CB...sure, go for it. But if you actually want to go into a season with the intention of winning games next year...we just have way too many holes to patch already, to go on and create another one for fun by cutting a decent but overpaid player. It's like...make cap space if you have a plan to actually use it to make the team better. Don't just cut the guy because you can, or for the sake of saving a few pennies while sucking. Ultimately...If the team is gonna suck either way, i want Khan to feel the entirety of the weight of the bad decisions his people have made. I get what youâre saying but there are too many holes to fill that 1 free agency or draft period is just not going to cut it. Partly the reasoning why to me it doesnât make sense to bring back Caldwell and Marrone the situation is in ruins as is. So to expect the current leadership to fix depth issues, retool skill positions, re build the trenches on both sides of the ball, plus fix 2 yrs of bad habits discipline and penalties issue is a hard ask. Youâre basically going into the season knowing your going to be trash in a situation that youâre not going to be able to turn around well enough to save your job. When you can essentially get a new regime know youâre  going to be bad yet you can see the progression of year 1 to 2 by starting the clock now. Instead of delaying the inevitable sitting through another year of piss poor football to ultimately fire every one end of next yr. This team makes the dumbest decisions probably not as dumb as the Browns but pretty damn close. As constructed what money can be used in FA to fix some of the current issues?đ Jags literally have to hit on every pick this offseason and hope everyone from the last 2 drafts makes considerable jumps. I donât see it. Edited December 27, 2019 by DuvalsKing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Buzz Posted December 27, 2019 Author Share Posted December 27, 2019 I'd much rather cut bait with guys like Bouye, Dareus, Campbell, etc. and take those double digits cap hits and give it to Yan as well as pay guys who did perform this year and may be more worth those type of contracts than continue to pay guys who aren't worth it for sure. Campbell is definitely just gonna continue to regress, Dareus obviously isn't worth close to that cap hit, and AJ has regressed each year the past couple years. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuvalsKing Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 32 minutes ago, .Buzz said: I'd much rather cut bait with guys like Bouye, Dareus, Campbell, etc. and take those double digits cap hits and give it to Yan as well as pay guys who did perform this year and may be more worth those type of contracts than continue to pay guys who aren't worth it for sure. Campbell is definitely just gonna continue to regress, Dareus obviously isn't worth close to that cap hit, and AJ has regressed each year the past couple years.  Agreed it doesnât make sense to keep shelling out money to be mediocre to bad itâs illogical.  But itâs not my money and the Jags make illogical decisions. Itâs like the Jags just totaled a car and theyâre still making payments on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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.Buzz Posted December 28, 2019 Author Share Posted December 28, 2019 19 minutes ago, DuvalsKing said: Â Idk how much longer I can do it. Our two best players in a very awful decade for the franchise are about to be traded/let go in a span of months. Hard to have any optimism right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tugboat Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 On 27/12/2019 at 7:45 AM, .Buzz said: I'd much rather cut bait with guys like Bouye, Dareus, Campbell, etc. and take those double digits cap hits and give it to Yan as well as pay guys who did perform this year and may be more worth those type of contracts than continue to pay guys who aren't worth it for sure. Campbell is definitely just gonna continue to regress, Dareus obviously isn't worth close to that cap hit, and AJ has regressed each year the past couple years.  The problem is, we suck at CB, even with Bouye. What makes people think it'd be better without him? Like...Marcus Peters just signed a 3x$42M deal. He's a pretty comparable CB to what Bouye can do. If you cut Bouye...you'd darn well better have a replacement plan in place. He's mediocre, but he's still the very best CB we have on our roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinderFournette Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Im not sure how to translate this https://www.playerprofiler.com/nfl/tre-herndon/ Its not pff but it combines measurables along with stats.  Herndon never got burned. I dont know their definition of a burn is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinderFournette Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 On 12/26/2019 at 3:53 PM, .Buzz said: Exactly. You can just try and find a gem or someone player equivently to what they're worth on the FA market instead of paying Bouye and co. as if he's a #1 corner when he's not. Look at what peters got and hes inconsistent. Had a good year this year but aj is more consistent. There arent many corners who can hold hopkins to 6 catches 48 yards. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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