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.Buzz Posted November 1, 2019 Author Share Posted November 1, 2019 10 hours ago, LinderFournette said: Smells like fluff cuz hes been terrible Terrible? Idk what you're expecting. See him get beat for a sack here and there and he's terrible? Kid is going up against Watt, Von Miller, Mercilus, Cameron Jordan, etc. from week to week and you expect him to win every rep as as a rookie or? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinderFournette Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 8 hours ago, .Buzz said: Terrible? Idk what you're expecting. See him get beat for a sack here and there and he's terrible? Kid is going up against Watt, Von Miller, Mercilus, Cameron Jordan, etc. from week to week and you expect him to win every rep as as a rookie or? i dont expect him to hold every games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Buzz Posted November 1, 2019 Author Share Posted November 1, 2019 3 hours ago, LinderFournette said: i dont expect him to hold every games. Rookies definitely are the most clean/mistake free set of players for sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JaguarCrazy2832 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 4 hours ago, .Buzz said: Rookies definitely are the most clean/mistake free set of players for sure. All downhill from there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Buzz Posted November 1, 2019 Author Share Posted November 1, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, JaguarCrazy2832 said: All downhill from there Jawaaan has had his issues, but like...he was literally seen as a project that had loads of raw talent. Idk how you could have expected some finished product or someone that wouldn't have plenty of lumps along the way. He's had too many flashes of brilliance and the raw talent is clearly there. I think he's going to be special. Haven't heard much hate besides this forum for him. It's weird. He's a rookie RT going against elite level DL and you think he's not going to get holds or give up a sack to all pro DL here and there. Edited November 1, 2019 by .Buzz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinderFournette Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 3 hours ago, .Buzz said: Jawaaan has had his issues, but like...he was literally seen as a project that had loads of raw talent. Idk how you could have expected some finished product or someone that wouldn't have plenty of lumps along the way. He's had too many flashes of brilliance and the raw talent is clearly there. I think he's going to be special. Haven't heard much hate besides this forum for him. It's weird. He's a rookie RT going against elite level DL and you think he's not going to get holds or give up a sack to all pro DL here and there. for a guy who the media touted up as a top 10 player Mocked a lot to us at 7 hes been a bit underwhelming. 6 sacks and 8 penalties isnt good. then you have the fact we Suck running the ball to the right which im not gonna blame all on taylor but its also not all our guards fault either. https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol/2019 we rank 29th running at right tackle and 32nd at right end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Buzz Posted November 2, 2019 Author Share Posted November 2, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, LinderFournette said: for a guy who the media touted up as a top 10 player Mocked a lot to us at 7 hes been a bit underwhelming. 6 sacks and 8 penalties isnt good. then you have the fact we Suck running the ball to the right which im not gonna blame all on taylor but its also not all our guards fault either. https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol/2019 we rank 29th running at right tackle and 32nd at right end. Yet he didn't get taken by anyone until us in round 2. Who cares where he was touted? Not to mention he is younger than most in the class and tons of room to grow/develop. He's 21 and a rookie OT. He's going to have growing pains. He's had tons of flash/eye popping plays too next to a makeshift RG spot being player by two different players. Edited November 2, 2019 by .Buzz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinderFournette Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 11 hours ago, .Buzz said: Yet he didn't get taken by anyone until us in round 2. Who cares where he was touted? Not to mention he is younger than most in the class and tons of room to grow/develop. He's 21 and a rookie OT. He's going to have growing pains. He's had tons of flash/eye popping plays too next to a makeshift RG spot being player by two different players. He was supposed to be pretty good run blocker coming out and based on the stats our rightside has been below average at run-blocking. Its not all the right guards fault and it's not all Taylor's fault. Hes been average at best and you guys are acting like hes been a stud. Age doesnt matter. Yes he has potential to be good but you know who else was young when we picked him and he had potential Luke Joeckel. Im not saying hes gonna be luke joeckel bad but hes not been above potentially being replaced outside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Buzz Posted November 2, 2019 Author Share Posted November 2, 2019 6 hours ago, LinderFournette said: He was supposed to be pretty good run blocker coming out and based on the stats our rightside has been below average at run-blocking. Its not all the right guards fault and it's not all Taylor's fault. Hes been average at best and you guys are acting like hes been a stud. Age doesnt matter. Yes he has potential to be good but you know who else was young when we picked him and he had potential Luke Joeckel. Im not saying hes gonna be luke joeckel bad but hes not been above potentially being replaced outside. Who said he's been a stud? I literally said he shows flashes and the upside is clearly there. What article has stated he's playing like a stud? He's a young first year OT. He's taking plenty of lumps but long term he looks like with continued development he could be a long term fixture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinderFournette Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 58 minutes ago, .Buzz said: Who said he's been a stud? I literally said he shows flashes and the upside is clearly there. What article has stated he's playing like a stud? He's a young first year OT. He's taking plenty of lumps but long term he looks like with continued development he could be a long term fixture. Bortles showed flashes and look at where it drove us 1 bortles extended and then cut 1 year after then we sign foles. I also believe we haven't developed a good home grown OL outside linder. Furthermore if u look at our draft history outside of Maurice Williams and Tony Boselli we havent developed a starting quality OT from round 2 and i wanna see Meester was the only non-bust IOL picked round 1/2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Buzz Posted November 3, 2019 Author Share Posted November 3, 2019 2 hours ago, LinderFournette said: Bortles showed flashes and look at where it drove us 1 bortles extended and then cut 1 year after then we sign foles. I also believe we haven't developed a good home grown OL outside linder. Furthermore if u look at our draft history outside of Maurice Williams and Tony Boselli we havent developed a starting quality OT from round 2 and i wanna see Meester was the only non-bust IOL picked round 1/2 We have a new OL coach, so what does it matter a out what happened? Or what happened 20 years ago with OL development? Comparing a QB who said himself "wasn't a natural thrower of the football" and considering he was the epitome of a guy with physical gifts that was a piece of work. Jawaan literally was viewed by so many as an elite OT level talent, just on the right side which takes a hit on value and because there was health questions. Yet people still mocked him top 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Buzz Posted November 3, 2019 Author Share Posted November 3, 2019 (edited) You expect guys to just develop immediately and be a stud out of the gates. You literally argued with me that because Chark didn't play much/wasn't great when he did get reps last year that he was never going to amount to anything. Not that this is the same because Taylor has def shown bigger flashes as a rookie and clearly the game isn't too big for him. Leon Searcy talks about him all the time. The raw talent is there and it's just going to take reps/continued development. Edited November 3, 2019 by .Buzz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Buzz Posted November 3, 2019 Author Share Posted November 3, 2019 One thing has become very evident. One of those two first round picks needs to be on a WR, imo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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