sammymvpknight Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 22 hours ago, tyler735 said: It would be fun to meet up with a fellow Saints fan, but it depends how late I get stuck at work Monday. If not before the game I'm section 120 could potentially grab a cold one at halftime or something if you're near there. Also I like to think I'm not psycho if that counts? Have fun! I'll be at a sports bar in Rochester. I work until about 5:30PM on Monday and work early on Tuesday...so I work be able to make it. Bummer but whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mid Iowa Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 16 hours ago, Jlowe22 said: This defense is gonna put our Cooks-less offense and our ancient Brees arm to the test good and early this season. If we can escape these first two weeks unscathed, or even 1-1, I like our playoff chances. Time will tell, but to me, the verdict is still out on how good Cooks is. Not that he's not good, I just think that Brees makes soooo many receivers look good due to how good Brees is. I think Michael Thomas is quite a bit better than Cooks, and this year will be a scary, Thomas led season. Looking at Cooks, he has to have a ball thrown to him in the open, or on perfect timing out in front of him, he doesn't fight for anything. His yards are all if he doesn't get hit because he has the speed to leave anyone. That's not a great receiver, that's a great speedster with good receiving ability, but the QB has to be on point for that to work. Michael Thomas, on the other hand, catches 76% of what's thrown his way (Cooks is at about 67% with Brees, 42% with Brady) which tells me he (Thomas) can go get it! That's going to make Brees better, and Brees makes Thomas better. I'll be watching Cooks to see just what he "was" worth in the trade, but after seeing the Thursday Night game, granted it was against a really good D, Cooks couldn't get open. His receptions came due to routes, not receiving skills. Brees will make this receiving corps good, regardless of who's in there, and now with a triple threat stable of running backs, I think this could be dangerous and fun!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raves Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 2 hours ago, Mid Iowa said: Time will tell, but to me, the verdict is still out on how good Cooks is. Not that he's not good, I just think that Brees makes soooo many receivers look good due to how good Brees is. I think Michael Thomas is quite a bit better than Cooks, and this year will be a scary, Thomas led season. Looking at Cooks, he has to have a ball thrown to him in the open, or on perfect timing out in front of him, he doesn't fight for anything. His yards are all if he doesn't get hit because he has the speed to leave anyone. That's not a great receiver, that's a great speedster with good receiving ability, but the QB has to be on point for that to work. Michael Thomas, on the other hand, catches 76% of what's thrown his way (Cooks is at about 67% with Brees, 42% with Brady) which tells me he (Thomas) can go get it! That's going to make Brees better, and Brees makes Thomas better. I'll be watching Cooks to see just what he "was" worth in the trade, but after seeing the Thursday Night game, granted it was against a really good D, Cooks couldn't get open. His receptions came due to routes, not receiving skills. Brees will make this receiving corps good, regardless of who's in there, and now with a triple threat stable of running backs, I think this could be dangerous and fun!! His stats look good, 3 catches for 88 yards, though on 7 throws his way. Cooks is a good WR, but he had an elite HoF QB throwing to him already, changing one for another won't magically make him a better WR so the most I expected the Patriots to get out of Cooks is what we got out of him. Like I mentioned in another thread, it's not like Cooks had whatever reject QB Miami had when Wes Welker was there or was unmotivated on a bad team like Randy Moss was in Oakland where both of them turned it around in New England, he came from a situation with a great offense/QB to pair him with and he was motivated to play, he is what he is, he can improve obviously, but the idea people had that he was suddenly become a top 5 WR in the NFL was ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dome Posted September 10, 2017 Author Share Posted September 10, 2017 O/U will be locked 10 minutes before kickoff. Any edits to your post after that time will invalidate your predictions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dome Posted September 10, 2017 Author Share Posted September 10, 2017 I won't be on the forums until after halftime. ?? Stupid work. Hoping our defense shows up like they did in the preseason. If they don't, you can go ahead and stick a fork in the season. Brees and Co. are gonna have their hands full, MIN has a nasty defense. Should be a great game, here's to no injuries! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjRay1985 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Drew Brees TD passes @ 2.5 - Over Adrian Peterson fumbles @ .5 - Under Defensive Sacks @ 3.5 - Under 3 Points - Wins @ .5 - Over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dome Posted September 10, 2017 Author Share Posted September 10, 2017 On 9/9/2017 at 7:33 AM, Mid Iowa said: Looking at Cooks, he has to have a ball thrown to him in the open, or on perfect timing out in front of him, he doesn't fight for anything. I disagree with this. Not having the ability to win a lot of jump ball matchups is different than not fighting for anything. The dude is fearless and wants the ball just as bad as anyone else on the field, saying he doesn't fight for anything is just flat wrong IMO. I do agree that Thomas is the better WR though, and I also agree that Brady/Bill won't get much if anything more out of Cooks than Payton and Brees did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlowe22 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 On 9/9/2017 at 9:33 AM, Mid Iowa said: Time will tell, but to me, the verdict is still out on how good Cooks is. Not that he's not good, I just think that Brees makes soooo many receivers look good due to how good Brees is. I think Michael Thomas is quite a bit better than Cooks, and this year will be a scary, Thomas led season. Looking at Cooks, he has to have a ball thrown to him in the open, or on perfect timing out in front of him, he doesn't fight for anything. His yards are all if he doesn't get hit because he has the speed to leave anyone. That's not a great receiver, that's a great speedster with good receiving ability, but the QB has to be on point for that to work. Michael Thomas, on the other hand, catches 76% of what's thrown his way (Cooks is at about 67% with Brees, 42% with Brady) which tells me he (Thomas) can go get it! That's going to make Brees better, and Brees makes Thomas better. I'll be watching Cooks to see just what he "was" worth in the trade, but after seeing the Thursday Night game, granted it was against a really good D, Cooks couldn't get open. His receptions came due to routes, not receiving skills. Brees will make this receiving corps good, regardless of who's in there, and now with a triple threat stable of running backs, I think this could be dangerous and fun!! Cooks is a good burner, and Ted Ginn JR is probably going to drop a lot of those easy TDs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H.K.44_Sacks Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 5 hours ago, Jlowe22 said: Cooks is a good burner, and Ted Ginn JR is probably going to drop a lot of those easy TDs. If Ginn starts off by dropping a lot of easy open catches (he likely will) than JLL should be an easy replacement for him in the role he should play in this offense. But hey two burners, Ginn Lewis, Two BIG bodies, Coleman Thomas, and two fearless, quick but not overly fast guys who run clean crisp routes, Snead Carr. It's a nice receiving core. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H.K.44_Sacks Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Drew Brees TD passes @ 2.5 - Under Adrian Peterson fumbles @ .5 - Under Defensive Sacks @ 3.5 - Over 3 Points - Wins @ .5 - Over minnesotas D is very tough Drew throws two. Kamara gets one and Thomas muscles one out. Petersons touches I believe will be limited (12-14) so that'll help. But there's no way he puts on the ground tomorrow night. Maybe I'm being a homer, I'm not, but this D seems like they have multiple pieces to apply pressure and cause sacks. Jordan, Rankins, kik in a specialist role, Muhammad, oak, not to mention the blitz that we will live and die for. Sack town We NEED the win and we should get it from an opportunistic D on a night where the offense will have a tough matchup. Defense will be the difference IMO in the first three weeks. And I believe we come out 2-1 going into London. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodatworm23 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 On 9/9/2017 at 9:57 PM, domepatrol91 said: I won't be on the forums until after halftime. ?? Stupid work. Hoping our defense shows up like they did in the preseason. If they don't, you can go ahead and stick a fork in the season. Brees and Co. are gonna have their hands full, MIN has a nasty defense. Should be a great game, here's to no injuries! Im actually nervous about this game... The Vikings matchup well with us, they have a fast physical defense with good run stuffers on the inside, good edge rushers on thr outside, athletic and instictive linebackers and a top corner in Rhodes who can match up with Thomas on thr outside. Mike Zimmer is a dam good defensive coach and imma go out on a limb here and say if we win this game it will be because of our defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NS922 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 12 minutes ago, whodatworm23 said: Im actually nervous about this game... What games aren't we nervous for? Scott Tolzien could break records on us and I wouldn't be surprised. I'm not trying to be a pessimist and I won't make predictions, but I'm not very confident about this game. They're not fooling me into thinking they'll be good until I have damn good evidence of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raves Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 We will win this game by 10+ pts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATcha Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 How many yards you all think AP goes for tonight? I'm going to say 45-55 with 1 TD. I think he comes out running like a wild bull with something to prove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodatworm23 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 23 minutes ago, SWATcha said: How many yards you all think AP goes for tonight? I'm going to say 45-55 with 1 TD. I think he comes out running like a wild bull with something to prove. 65 yards... 2 TDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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