viper952 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Dak sucks, we can all agree there 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 2 hours ago, -Hope- said: he's good, not great. i don't think he's really even particularly overrated, it's not like he's commonly talked about as a top 5 QB. he's a good QB you can win with. Yup. Just a good QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danand Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Riftty said: Is Carson Wentz actually good? Is Kirk Cousins actually good? Is Baker Mayfield actually good? Is Dak actually good? I could go all day. Goff is 3-0 after a Superbowl loss. People still want to distinguish "good" quarterbacks from "system" quarterbacks, instead of acknowledge that there can be good system quarterbacks. Tom Brady and BB is the perfect example of a system quarterback who has managed that system to perfection and it is very hard to beat. Goff and McVay could have similar succes, although Goff still would carry the "he is only good because of McVay" label. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Danand said: People still want to distinguish "good" quarterbacks from "system" quarterbacks, instead of acknowledge that there can be good system quarterbacks. Tom Brady and BB is the perfect example of a system quarterback who has managed that system to perfection and it is very hard to beat. Goff and McVay could have similar succes, although Goff still would carry the "he is only good because of McVay" label. Because Goff was so bad as a rookie, and turned it around as soon as McVay was coach, the natural lazy analysis is that Goff can't perform with anyone else. Sadly, that's probably going to be a narrative that sticks around. Edited September 23, 2019 by PapaShogun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 He's alright... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Riftty said: Is Carson Wentz actually good? Is Kirk Cousins actually good? Is Baker Mayfield actually good? Is Dak actually good? I could go all day. Goff is 3-0 after a Superbowl loss. Hard no. Also, shouldn't this just be a post in the Wk 3 Overreactions Thread? I mean, Drew Brees' first 2 full seasons as a starter were a joke compared to Goff's. Tom Brady's first 3, Matt Ryan's first 3-4. Goff has been playing, overall, at an Aaron Rodgers-esque level (statistically) since he was pre-labeled a bust after his rookie season. Is he Rodgers? No, probably not. But only 2 years removed from being a "bust" and one of the "worst picks ever", and only 2 years into McVay's system, anyone saying he's "no Brees, no Brady, no Ryan, no Rivers" is forgetting that it took all of these guys several years and scheme changes to get really really good. Rodgers is about the only one of the top QB's in recent memory (perhaps Wilson too) who came out of the gate red hot as a starter. Edited September 23, 2019 by ronjon1990 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerbyRam Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Goff is a good QB. He's played 37 games since his rookie year and he's won 30 of them. I don't think you can achieve that if you're a bad or even average quarterback. He's had a poor start to the season in relation to his own standards, but he still managed to win on the road against one of the media's heavily picked favourites for a deep run into the play-offs. He had to do it with an below par running game too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swift21 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Goff will be fine. Rams should be more worried about Gurley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBLIII Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Above average to good. Top 10-12 QB. He will get it done with the right supporting cast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornbybrown Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 He is good, not great. He might become great or he might stay where he is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelKing728 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 He's top 15 so yeah he's good. But nothing special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveTheVikings Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Have him play the Vikings every week 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammymvpknight Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Good...enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizofoz45 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 I think when a QB like Rodgers has a down stretch it’s different because he’s made so many amazing plays. I haven’t seen that wow factor from Goff even when his numbers were better. Even Brady was a bit that way for awhile early on because he didn’t have that eye-popping dynamic in his game. 4 so so games in a row shouldn’t negate 2 years of good production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 8 minutes ago, blizofoz45 said: I think when a QB like Rodgers has a down stretch it’s different because he’s made so many amazing plays. I haven’t seen that wow factor from Goff even when his numbers were better. Even Brady was a bit that way for awhile early on because he didn’t have that eye-popping dynamic in his game. 4 so so games in a row shouldn’t negate 2 years of good production. Know your surroundings though man. 4 games negates 2 years of production and 1 game made Lamar Jackson a bonafide Hall of Famer. It just works like that around here sometimes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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