NYJets4716 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 3 hours ago, SmittyBacall said: Let me preface this by saying Mahomes is obviously in another realm of quarterbacking ability, and is without question miles better in so many ways, but Josh Allen kind of reminded me of a Mahomes-lite QB on Sunday. He's got that ridiculous arm, and has that ability to move around, escape pressure and make absurd, awkward-armed throws across his body and throwing off-platform. It's nerve-wracking to watch when your team needs a stop. Or am I reaching? Much more turnover prone and nowhere near as spectacular. He should have thrown 4 INTs week 1 and 2 fumbles. The Bills did a great job giving him a OL that gives him plenty of time to throw though. Hes mediocre right now on a good overall team. Mahomes is on another level than every QB, hes freakishly good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chargers Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 2 hours ago, ET80 said: Maybe it's the Texans fan in me... But I feel as if nobody talks about Deshaun Watson in these threads anymore. Mahomes is the clear #1, but Watson has to be locked into that #2 spot.. with a pretty wide gap for #3. Watson was Rodgers-esque yesterday, Texans need to protect him more though. I think reason he is not mentioned by people is that people still have Wentz higher on their list after Mahomes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 48 minutes ago, Classic said: Watson was Rodgers-esque yesterday, Texans need to protect him more though. I think reason he is not mentioned by people is that people still have Wentz higher on their list after Mahomes. I think the protection is getting there. Texans went from six sacks to four sacks to two sacks over the past three games, and Los Angeles probably had the best set of pass rushers of the three teams playing (Yannick Ngakoue was out week 2, so that's why the Jags weren't at the top). Now, yesterday wasn't a GREAT showing, but it was pretty good - Watson had time, took too much of it if anything. The sacks were pretty different in nature, designed to bring Watson inside the pocket to a 2nd wave of pressure coming up the gaps. The configuration of Tunsil/Scharping/Martin/Fulton/Howard seems like the winning combo for this unit going forward. If they can gel off of this performance, they'll be positioned to be a very good unit for a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 3 hours ago, iknowcool said: I have a lot of faith in Kyle Allen People forget that Kyle Allen was neck and neck with Kyler Murray when both were at Texas A&M; Murray transferred to Oklahoma, where Lincoln Riley refined him to the #1 pick in the draft. Allen transferred to UH, where Major Applewhite did nothing similar to that. Allen has a good arm and plus athleticism - not as athletic as Murray, but probably has a better arm. Had Allen transferred to UT and worked with Tom Hermann, maybe he would have been a better prospect going into his draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocky_rams Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 4 hours ago, ET80 said: Maybe it's the Texans fan in me... But I feel as if nobody talks about Deshaun Watson in these threads anymore. Mahomes is the clear #1, but Watson has to be locked into that #2 spot.. with a pretty wide gap for #3. He gets overlooked. He’s one of my fav QBs. Mahomes is playing the best right now but Watson is not that far behind. Watching film on Watson, there’s no doubt in my my mind that if Watson was on the Chiefs under the same circumstances, then we’d all be talking about Watson the same way we are Mahomes. Sure Mahomes can do the left handed throws and no look passes, not to mention, his throws based on his ridiculous arm strength. But Watson doesn’t need to do all that. He’s very clutch and a solid leader 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbuff Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 3 hours ago, NYJets4716 said: Much more turnover prone and nowhere near as spectacular. He should have thrown 4 INTs week 1 and 2 fumbles. The Bills did a great job giving him a OL that gives him plenty of time to throw though. Hes mediocre right now on a good overall team. Mahomes is on another level than every QB, hes freakishly good. Comparing anyone to Mahomes is dumb. We talking about a dude on his way to GOAT status. Josh always gonna be the dude to have a couple head scratchers every game, but he’s resilient and also going to make plays other guys simply can’t. He sheds passrushers like no ones business. He’s going to be Big Ben 2.0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minutemancl Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 5 hours ago, ET80 said: Maybe it's the Texans fan in me... But I feel as if nobody talks about Deshaun Watson in these threads anymore. Mahomes is the clear #1, but Watson has to be locked into that #2 spot.. with a pretty wide gap for #3. Watson is established, at least to me. Everyone should know by now that Watson is a damn fine QB. My first thought was that this thread is more for the super young and inexperienced guys, like Baker, Jackson, Darnold, Allen, Kyle Allen, Murray, Rosen, and Jones. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minutemancl Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 I'm all in on Kyle Allen. I love Cam Newton, but Kyle Allen has made the most of all the playing time he's been given. Ride the hot hand and see what he's really got. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TedLavie Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 5 hours ago, ET80 said: Maybe it's the Texans fan in me... But I feel as if nobody talks about Deshaun Watson in these threads anymore. Mahomes is the clear #1, but Watson has to be locked into that #2 spot.. with a pretty wide gap for #3. You're excluding Wentz/Goff/Dak of this right? Cause those guys vs Watson is at least debatable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 (edited) Apparently Kyle Allen took only 15 minutes to get to his first post game presser. Newton always takes an hour. Doesn't mean anything huge, but thought it was interesting anyway. Edited September 24, 2019 by PapaShogun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Buzz Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 5 hours ago, minutemancl said: Watson is established, at least to me. Everyone should know by now that Watson is a damn fine QB. My first thought was that this thread is more for the super young and inexperienced guys, like Baker, Jackson, Darnold, Allen, Kyle Allen, Murray, Rosen, and Jones. Kyle Allen had a solid game but I think it's pretty odd to list him with the rest of those yet. Not that I think Rosen is going to be anything (due to situation) but... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 5 hours ago, TedLavie said: You're excluding Wentz/Goff/Dak of this right? Cause those guys vs Watson is at least debatable. I'm setting the line at the 2016 draft. I'd agree that it's a pretty close race between Watson and the 2015 class, and people could make arguments for and against each. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 I like what Sam Monson said on the PFF podcast about Minshew, and how he comes off as essentially being the poster boy for an athlete having limited tools physically, but still has that "it" factor. Like a rich man's Cody Kessler, without the bad pocket presence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 1 hour ago, ET80 said: I'm setting the line at the 2016 draft. I'd agree that it's a pretty close race between Watson and the 2015 class, and people could make arguments for and against each. me thinks you have your drafts mixed up, unless your comparing Watson to Mariota 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elky Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Josh Allen: Mediocre. Josh Rosen: Garbage. Sam Darnold: Mediocre. Lamar Jackson: I doubt he'll ever become a consistently effective passer, but he'll get by for a few years. Baker Mayfield: Needs an offensive line. DeShaun Watson: Most underrated QB in the league. Jacoby Brisket: If he can take Indy to the playoffs, which is certainly possible considering how weak the AFC South is, do they really need to draft a QB? Brisket isn't a world beater, but I think Indy wouldn't mind sticking with him if he can do that. Daniel Jones: Very impressive thus far. Patrick Mahomes: The future face of the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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