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6 hours ago, vegas492 said:

Kenny Clark is a fine player.  And still ascending.  No issue with the pick at all.

But Jones is flat out the better player.  For a non space eater, or pass rusher specialist, Jones makes plenty of tackles, while posting a ton more sacks than Clark.

You are right, there is no wrong answer as both are very good.  One is just flat out better than the other.  ...for now.  Things can change as Kenny is still quite young.

Right but I think we're still having slightly different conversations.

A 3T versus a nose is a completely position.  Ignoring schematic considerations which just complicate things further, they literally are designed to do different things from the ground up.  Kenny is never going to have the stats Jones does, because Kenny is being asked to anchor and redirect on a much larger percentage of his snaps than Jones.  I'm not even saying that Jones isn't better than Kenny, as I haven't actually watched him enough to have a clear opinion.  I'm just saying that the difference in stats is unimportant to me because I feel that a nose tackle that can rush is more rare to me than a 3T that can anchor.  There's more Chris Jones's in the NFL than there are Kenny Clarks.

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12 hours ago, vegas492 said:

Kenny Clark is a fine player.  And still ascending.  No issue with the pick at all.

But Jones is flat out the better player.  For a non space eater, or pass rusher specialist, Jones makes plenty of tackles, while posting a ton more sacks than Clark.

You are right, there is no wrong answer as both are very good.  One is just flat out better than the other.  ...for now.  Things can change as Kenny is still quite young.

To each his own; depends how your defense is being run.  However, Jones is not flat out better than Clark.  They play different positions which makes this a mute point.  I'd take Clark at his position over Jones at his position ... for now.  That being said .... to each his own.

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Acme Packing:

If Matt LaFleur’s game plan against a gimpy Philadelphia Eagles secondary had a catchy internet name it would be #ThrowbackThursday. The Green Bay Packers went to bread-and-butter West Coast concepts and a spread attack, breaking tendencies by doing what it used to do under Mike McCarthy. Throw the ball early and often, eschew play-action, play from shotgun, and let Aaron Rodgers be Aaron Rodgers.

Would that approach have been different with Jamaal Williams healthy for the entire game, or if Sidney Jones doesn’t go out? We can’t know, but given how good the Eagles defensive front has been this season as one of the best run defenses in football, and with the injuries in the secondary, the prudent approach was always to let Rodgers sling it.

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12 minutes ago, Leader said:

Acme Packing:

If Matt LaFleur’s game plan against a gimpy Philadelphia Eagles secondary had a catchy internet name it would be #ThrowbackThursday. The Green Bay Packers went to bread-and-butter West Coast concepts and a spread attack, breaking tendencies by doing what it used to do under Mike McCarthy. Throw the ball early and often, eschew play-action, play from shotgun, and let Aaron Rodgers be Aaron Rodgers.

Would that approach have been different with Jamaal Williams healthy for the entire game, or if Sidney Jones doesn’t go out? We can’t know, but given how good the Eagles defensive front has been this season as one of the best run defenses in football, and with the injuries in the secondary, the prudent approach was always to let Rodgers sling it.

I can agree with this assessment.  Rodgers always seemed most lethal when he escaped the pocket and had some time and space to hit a downfield receiver on a rope.  It was a combination of scripted back-shoulder throws and playground improvisation, with complete precision and accuracy.  With age and injuries, he hasn't been quite as mobile to give him that time and space needed to survey every inch of the field.  That, and teams schemed for his pocket escapes, and forced him to stay in the pocket.  Last Thursday was a vision of what we could see in the future, and it was fun to watch all around.

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