Troy Brown Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 lmao lebron went 20 feet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resilient part 2 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Thelonebillsfan said: I don't think he'll ever be great, being great is more than just the physical ability to do it. But I think he can hash out to being league average to above average which I think is still a superstar with how insanely gifted he is offensively. He has super star potential YES. Many Super Stars aren't great on defense.. But as a Big Fan of basketball all I want for Zion is to be at "his" best, whatever that is.. So sad to see this right now IMO.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsoxsuck05 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 1 minute ago, resilient part 2 said: I definitely wanted MPJ for the NYKs, but truth is I also had higher expectations for Knox as well.. Sadly the Knicks are such a mess, I can't tell how much is on Knox or the franchise. Even when he had more confidence as a rookie, he was unfathomably awful. He's legit bad at everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelonebillsfan Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 1 minute ago, redsoxsuck05 said: We have a place for people like Porter. Staten Island. AYYYY I'M TRYNA WORSHIP THE GOSPEL OF PROSPERITY OVER HEEAH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelonebillsfan Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Just now, redsoxsuck05 said: Even when he had more confidence as a rookie, he was unfathomably awful. He's legit bad at everything. I thought he could at least be a plus on defense like Frank but he just came completely apart this year to the point where he was getting DNP's for dudes we signed off the street lol. God what a terrible 10 years of drafting the Knicks have had, they've hit on one pick and he could not wait to get the hell out of here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resilient part 2 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, redsoxsuck05 said: Even when he had more confidence as a rookie, he was unfathomably awful. He's legit bad at everything. LOL, he sucked me in with an impressive rookie summer league... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsoxsuck05 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Thelonebillsfan said: I thought he could at least be a plus on defense like Frank but he just came completely apart this year to the point where he was getting DNP's for dudes we signed off the street lol. God what a terrible 10 years of drafting the Knicks have had, they've hit on one pick and he could not wait to get the hell out of here. He checks out on defense. That's been pretty consistent since college. I still wish they'd just play him, Frank, and Mitch more than 20 mins a game (in absence of foul trouble). Instead we get to see some **** PG reclamation project like Burke, Mudiay, Payton, etc. Hell they already gave up on DSJ. I get that our coaches can only tolerate so much cluelessness from these kids, but even thinking about Randle, Portis, Gibson, and Payton makes me gag. Edited August 4, 2020 by redsoxsuck05 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsoxsuck05 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 I actually almost convinced myself that Porzingis was overrated after all, even though the return was still dog-****. I can't even have that silver lining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanSlim Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 14 minutes ago, resilient part 2 said: My Boston Celtic's Grant Williams, with similar size was also a college DPOY in his conference.. what you do in college does not always equate to the NBA.. Plus Zion received so much hype that It wouldn't surprise me if he wasn't nominated for the Noble Peace Prize.. Zion's lack of length and that type of body and weight just make it unreasonable to think he could be a DPOY type of talent.... I think he has some limitations size and length wise but his athleticism makes up a nice part of what he may lack there. I feel you don’t average 2 steals and almost 2 blocks a game without some good defensive traits. I honestly think more than anything it’s a effort/conditioning thing. Just look at any of his Duke highlights. He was an energizer bunny defensive, flying all over the court for steals, help side blocks, ect. His energy and effort was his calling card. Now he barely gives an effort when he gets beat defensively. Now I don’t know if he’ll ever become DPOY good but I do think he’ll become a very good defender with experience and once he finds his ideal weight/condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resilient part 2 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 1 minute ago, TitanSlim said: I think he has some limitations size and length wise but his athleticism makes up a nice part of what he may lack there. I feel you don’t average 2 steals and almost 2 blocks a game without some good defensive traits. I honestly think more than anything it’s a effort/conditioning thing. Just look at any of his Duke highlights. He was an energizer bunny defensive, flying all over the court for steals, help side blocks, ect. His energy and effort was his calling card. Now he barely gives an effort when he gets beat defensively. Now I don’t know if he’ll ever become DPOY good but I do think he’ll become a very good defender with experience and once he finds his ideal weight/condition. fair enough.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resilient part 2 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Meanwhile in games that are playoff level games for the Pels, Lonzo has been 2 for 13 (in a loss) 2 for 6 (loss) and 2 for 7, (in a win) with almost NO scoring in the 4th quarters of all 3 games.. How long of a leash should Lonzo be given in the Pelican's future?? Might he be better suited in a off the bench push it up tempo PG, rather than a starter?? Thoughts?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartica4Real Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 36 minutes ago, Thelonebillsfan said: I don't think he'll ever be great, being great is more than just the physical ability to do it. But I think he can hash out to being league average to above average which I think is still a superstar with how insanely gifted he is offensively. Yeah, it is 100%. His net rating and on/off numbers are already insanely good. He gets into better shape and he plays more minutes, plays more games, gets quicker on defense, and he's an MVP level player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartica4Real Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 12 minutes ago, resilient part 2 said: Meanwhile in games that are playoff level games for the Pels, Lonzo has been 2 for 13 (in a loss) 2 for 6 (loss) and 2 for 7, (in a win) with almost NO scoring in the 4th quarters of all 3 games.. How long of a leash should Lonzo be given in the Pelican's future?? Might he be better suited in a off the bench push it up tempo PG, rather than a starter?? Thoughts?? He will be allowed to walk if he asks for too much. Lonzo isn't a guy who is make or break for you. I'd love to keep him but it's gotta be at a good price point and most definitely not at 20m+ per year. He's a good piece for the future but the important part is that he's a supplemental piece to the star duo of Zion/BI, which makes him expendable if need be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11sanchez11 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 I hate the Spurs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11sanchez11 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 DeRozan and Gay killing the 76ers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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