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Let's break this down season by season, shall we?

2011/12
Conley: 12.7 PTS, 6.5 AST, 2.5 REB, 2.2 STL, 2.0 TOV on 43.3/37.7/86.1, .477 eFG%, 110 O RTG, 102 D RTG, 16.8 PER, 1.9 BPM, 2.1 VORP, .141 WS/48
Kemba: 12.1 PTS, 4.4 AST, 3.5 REB, 0.9 STL, 1.8 TOV on 36.6/30.5/78.9, .411 eFG%, 96 O RTG, 111 D RTG, 14.9 PER, -1.2 BPM, 0.3 VORP, .009 WS/48

2012/13
Conley: 14.6 PTS, 6.1 AST, 2.8 REB, 2.2 STL, 2.4 TOV on 44.0/36.2/83.0, .497 eFG%, 111 O RTG, 100 D RTG, 18.3 PER, 4.1 BPM, 4.3 VORP, .172 WS/48
Kemba: 17.7 PTS, 5.7 AST, 3.5 REB, 2.0 STL, 2.4 TOV on 42.3/32.2/79.8, .466 eFG%, 105 O RTG, 111 D RTG, 18.8 PER, 1.5 BPM, 2.5 VORP, .080 WS/48

2013/2014
Conley: 17.2 PTS, 6.0 AST, 2.9 REB, 1.5 STL, 2.1 TOV on 45.0/36.1/81.5, .500 eFG%, 113 O RTG, 106 D RTG, 20.0 PER, 3.4 BPM, 3.3 VORP, .161 WS/48
Kemba: 17.7 PTS, 6.1 AST, 4.2 REB, 1.2 STL, 2.3 TOV on 39.3/33.3/83.7, .441 eFG%, 103 O RTG, 105 D RTG, 16.8 PER, 1.7 BPM, 2.4 VORP, .093 WS/48

2014/15
Conley: 15.8 PTS, 5.4 AST, 3.0 REB, 1.3 STL, 2.2 TOV on 44.6/38.6/85.9, .506 eFG%, 110 O RTG, 104 D RTG, 18.6 PER, 2.7 BPM, 2.6 VORP, .147 WS/48
Kemba: 17.3 PTS, 5.1 AST, 3.5 REB, 1.4 STL, 1.6 TOV on 38.5/30.4/82.7, .429 eFG%, 103 O RTG, 104 D RTG, 17.6 PER, 2.2 BPM, 2.3 VORP, .101 WS/48

2015/16
Conley: 15.3 PTS, 6.1 AST, 2.9 REB, 1.2 STL, 1.5 TOV on 42.2/36.3/83.4, 115 O RTG, 110 D RTG, 19.4 PER, 1.7 BPM, 1.7 VORP, .145 WS/48
Kemba: 20.9 PTS, 5.2 AST, 4.4 REB, 1.6 STL, 2.1 TOV on 42.7/37.1/84.7, 112 O RTG, 105 D RTG, 20.8 PER, 4.0 BPM, 4.4 VORP, .165 WS/48

2016/17
Conley: 20.5 PTS, 6.3 AST, 3.5 REB, 1.3 STL, 2.3 TOV on 46.0/40.8/85.9, 121 O RTG, 108 D RTG, 23.2 PER, 5.7 BPM, 4.5 VORP, .209 WS/48
Kemba: 23.2 PTS, 5.5 AST, 3.9 REB, 1.1 STL, 2.1 TOV on 44.4/39.9/84.7, 113 O RTG, 111 D RTG, 21.3 PER, 3.6 BPM, 3.9 VORP, .142 WS/48

2017/18
Conley played 12 games so Kemba by default

2018/19
Conley: 21.1 PTS, 6.4 AST, 3.4 REB, 1.3 STL, 1.9 TOV on 43.8/36.4/84.5, 117 O RTG, 111 D RTG, 21.4 PER, 3.4 BPM, 3.2 VORP, .164 WS/48
Kemba: 25.6 PTS, 5.9 AST, 4.4 REB, 1.2 STL, 2.6 TOV on 43.4/35.6/84.4, 112 O RTG, 114 D RTG, 21.7 PER, 3.3 BPM, 3.9 VORP, .123 WS/48


Now stop this Conley slander

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6 minutes ago, Troy Brown said:

i'm not going to go through all of their career stats because i've got some video juegos to play but i'm willing to bet those "negligible years" are the ones that kemba had better numbers

And you'd be wrong.

And I did the leg work for you already. But, yes. Move the goalposts now that the past numbers where Kemba has "been better" have been posted and they show that Conley straight up washes the floor with Kemba. 

You can use a 10 game sample size all you want. Just don't get on me when I use Giannis's 10 game sample size and say he's posting the greatest season we've ever seen up to this point.

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Just now, Troy Brown said:

alright cool so kemba is trending upwards and has been the better player in recent years, i guess i was wrong idk what you're looking for here

He was better one year prior and the season that Conley didn't play. But sure, he's been the better player in recent years lol.

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Conley's last 6 games:

18.8 PTS on 45.7/48.7/80.0

It's almost like 10 game sample sizes aren't enough to gauge anything off of due to the massive ebb and flow of early season numbers. He's been fine after his initial terrible start to the year. Funny how that works.

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1 hour ago, Troy Brown said:

and what you're paying him as no relevance to their on court performance which most advanced numbers you want to look at say hayward is better but if it makes you feel THAT much better to say bojan is outplaying hayward, go for it bud, i know you ain't got much to drink down there 

Bojan is balling this year buddy. No one is worried about Boston. 

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45 minutes ago, champ11 said:

I told you he's been bad for his standards.....my dude is just different. Not engaged at all this year. Seems like he's outta shape. He'll be fine but it's one of the reasons we haven't been good yet

That's just disappointing. Out of shape after playing in the world championships? He doesn't want it enough.................

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Just now, J-ALL-DAY said:

That's just disappointing. Out of shape after playing in the world championships? He doesn't want it enough.................

Lol.....He's all about winning. He's just a different dude. He was locked in (most touches in the league, team on his back) for 82 games + playoffs and the FIBA which was a ton of pressure as well. I'm not really surprised he hasn't been locked in to start the year. He'll be fine.

I believe that metric has Will Barton as a top 2 player in the league, btw, so I wouldn't put too much into it through 10 games. Jokic is still playing pretty well while shooting the worst he has in his career. 

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11 minutes ago, champ11 said:

Lol.....He's all about winning. He's just a different dude. He was locked in (most touches in the league, team on his back) for 82 games + playoffs and the FIBA which was a ton of pressure as well. I'm not really surprised he hasn't been locked in to start the year. He'll be fine.

I believe that metric has Will Barton as a top 2 player in the league, btw, so I wouldn't put too much into it through 10 games. Jokic is still playing pretty well while shooting the worst he has in his career. 

So he is ALL about winning yet he comes in to the season out of shape? Only Shaq can pull that off!!!!!!

Lol but yeah, once he picks it up the offense should be better. Still makes little sense why the offense has struggled so much this season after being a top 5 unit last season.

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6 minutes ago, J-ALL-DAY said:

So he is ALL about winning yet he comes in to the season out of shape? Only Shaq can pull that off!!!!!!

Lol but yeah, once he picks it up the offense should be better. Still makes little sense why the offense has struggled so much this season after being a top 5 unit last season.

He's just all about the team and that works like to our detriment sometimes lol. I don't think he wants to HAVE to carry the team every single night....like it took him so long to accept being a star and it's still going to be a growth for him. He's not a dude that is gonna have that killer mindset every night. And the bottom line is NBA regular season basketball is a chore lol. I don't think he's necessarily dying to win against Atlanta on a Tuesday night on the 10th game of the season. Philly in the 4th quarter of a home Friday night game? He was the best player on the floor. 

Is that an excuse? Not really...it's effin annoying that he's not playing his best and the team is struggling as a result...I just want to watch my son ball. But I kinda understand why he's like this and it's also why he's so special/great.

Also if he was hitting his threes at like 33% instead of 25% we'd be blowing these teams out. We'll be good. It's really the bench that has been the most confusing aspect to me. Starting unit has still been killing....bench has sucked

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