champ11 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Just now, iLikeDefense said: But do they view it as a lost season? In that moment, they probably viewed that game as a must win. Exactly the issue i'm getting at. And either way it's unacceptable. The org wants Chubb to be contributing to this team for at least 2 contracts. More important than a September game against Jacksonville Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncofan Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) TBH playing on the torn ACL didn’t likely make it worse. Once it tore it was torn. The fact it was a partial tear is why he could play. And why it didn’t feel so bad as it did once the swelling took overnight. It’s also why the clinical test is unreliable when not present - it’s 100 percent accurate when it says there is a tear there but not when it’s negative. It sucks but likely did no extra damage. Could it have? For sure. But a partial tear is where players often don’t realize it. The risk of a complete tear is why it needs fixing. And if that happened the Q’s likely would have come. But the story isn’t that unusual. I don’t blame the staff - the sideline tests can get it wrong it’s why I never say I believe good news on minor knee injuries when it’s non-contact unless they do a MRI. Just sucks for Chubb and us. Edited September 30, 2019 by Broncofan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroncoBruin Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) You're now in a position of starting a rookie UDFA at outside linebacker. Kind of a natural way to open the floodgates, no? I feel like this is the time to start benching some guys. I've seen enough of Shelby Harris at NT, Purcell should be starting there. DeMarcus Walker made a few plays on Sunday, that's good enough for me to give him a shot to start at one of the end positions. Dre'Mont should be on the field every 3rd down, as well as rotating in on early downs so he can take those lumps. ILB is, of course, a complete mess. I know we can't have Corey Nelson on the field anymore, good god that's the easiest fix on the roster. He's not even playing special teams, cut him. As much of Justin Hollins as possible to figure out if he has any future there, although now he is your primary backup at OLB so maybe you can't. See if you have anything in Joe Jones when he's back. He's had one opportunity in his career and looked good in that game. He can run, you have to try him. On the back end, I think we know what Will Parks is. Subpackage player in a defense where he can't play that position. When Kareem is back, put him back at SS, keep Duke and Bausby on the field, and when Harris is traded you can give Yiadom his shot to improve. Edited September 30, 2019 by BroncoBruin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
germ-x Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Ah, I don’t blame the staff. Further Chubb didn’t have a complete tear making it harder to diagnose and to further even that, Chubb is a gamer who would’ve wanted and clearly did play...I am guessing he didn’t even realize he was as seriously injured. This actually happened to me in high school my senior year. In the scrimmage before the season I ran the ball and while cutting my knee got clipped by a DB. It didn’t hurt but when I got up my knee felt weird, but there wasn’t any pain. I finished the half. Came out the 2nd half and went to cut and my knee completely collapsed and that’s when I knew something was wrong, still no pain though. I sat the rest of the game woke up the next morning with my knee swollen and painful. Tried to practice later that week and my knee continued to collapse, went in for an MRI and had a complete ACL tear. The person who performed my surgery was Dr. Martin Boublik (sp) who is on Denver’s medical staff and could likely be the one who performs Chubbs. He told me that I probably partially tore my ACL when the DB clipped me and then fully tore it trying to cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsthomp2007 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Shades of Olandis Gary. Not only did he tear his ACL and play, but he played well. I miss that guy...total tank. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebestever6 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 26 minutes ago, BroncoBruin said: See if you have anything in Joe Jones when he's back. Once week 11 or 12 hit I'm excited to see Josh Watson from the ps as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncosfan07 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Unfortunate injury as he looked poised to make the next step but it was early in the season which should put him well on track to be 100% next season. Going back into the game is a non-issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKRNA Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 12 hours ago, champ11 said: Absolute organizational incompetence. One of your (VERY FEW) young, core pieces should not be playing through injuries on an 0-3 team. Even effing cramps. This is an embarrassment. No idea if Chubb tore his ACL before or after he came back in, but either way it displays an organization that has no idea what the hell it's doing Listen bud, you're better than this! Take a breath. That's a really sh***ty post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKRNA Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 12 hours ago, broncos67 said: . My god this team has had some truly horrendous defensive players over the years. And some of the very best to ever play the game. Want a list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lomaxgrUK Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 (edited) We're definitely going to see a repeat of Demarcus Walker with Justin Hollins, aren't we? Guy is moved around constantly as a young player based solely on where we need him, rather than what suits him best, and the player simply can't just play because he's too busy thinking. You would have to assume Hollins is going to get the 1st crack at being the next pass rusher in after Von and Malik, but I've seen nothing from Hollins to suggest he's ready for such a role. Wonder if Ahmad Gooden will get brought up, or perhaps a veteran like Nick Perry brought in? I think we'd all prefer the former, given this season is done already. Edited October 1, 2019 by lomaxgrUK 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champ11 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 6 hours ago, AKRNA said: Listen bud, you're better than this! Take a breath. That's a really sh***ty post. I mean is this unfair to the organization? I might be spoiled as an NBA fan and just expect better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebestever6 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_San_Francisco_49ers_season Besides the trade for Jimmy G in 2017. Does our roster look that much worse than San Francisco in 2017? First year of Shannahan who is 3-0 right now. I would say it's legitimately better which might change hopefully in the case of acquiring picks for players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncos67 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 7 hours ago, AKRNA said: And some of the very best to ever play the game. Want a list? Sure they have, but I am talking basically since the end of the Shanahan era, there have been some horrendous personnel decisions defensively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroncoBruin Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 10 hours ago, lomaxgrUK said: We're definitely going to see a repeat of Demarcus Walker with Justin Hollins, aren't we? Guy is moved around constantly as a young player based solely on where we need him, rather than what suits him best, and the player simply can't just play because he's too busy thinking. You would have to assume Hollins is going to get the 1st crack at being the next pass rusher in after Von and Malik, but I've seen nothing from Hollins to suggest he's ready for such a role. Wonder if Ahmad Gooden will get brought up, or perhaps a veteran like Nick Perry brought in? I think we'd all prefer the former, given this season is done already. The team is essentially sabotaging its own draft pick because they refuse to address the linebacker position. Elway and Russell think linebackers grow on freaking trees. That's true of mediocre linebackers, not good ones. Not difference makers. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncofan Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 (edited) This is actually a bigger problem - ACL recovery is almost routine the 1st time, but the chances of losing some explosion after a 2nd ACL is much greater (not a lost cause by any means especially because Chubb is still young in terms of recovery potential vs. a 30+ year old guy, but it's not as straightforward an assumption that all is going to be back to pre-injury levels). Damn. Edited October 1, 2019 by Broncofan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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