MikeT14 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 I think that's a good low risk deal for Franco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TENINCH Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2019/12/twins-sign-tyler-clippard.html Did well for the Indians Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsoxsuck05 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 3 hours ago, tom cody said: Teheran is a start I guess for the Angels rotation. His signing was too obvious. Whatever version of Teheran you’re getting, he at least will give you 180 passable innings. Their rotation wasn’t even capable of that in the past few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Can't pay Betts doe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrubes20 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 1 hour ago, beekay414 said: Can't pay Betts doe Same BS with the Cubs and KB. Ricketts just sold Ameritrade for $28 Billion, but they "aRe ThE POorS" and for some reason have mandated that they have to get under the LT. Pure bull****. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 1 hour ago, hrubes20 said: Same BS with the Cubs and KB. Ricketts just sold Ameritrade for $28 Billion, but they "aRe ThE POorS" and for some reason have mandated that they have to get under the LT. Pure bull****. There's stuff out there that they couldn't afford Sogard and Claudio. They signed for a combined 6.25 million lol. It's a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsoxsuck05 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 17 hours ago, hrubes20 said: Same BS with the Cubs and KB. Ricketts just sold Ameritrade for $28 Billion, but they "aRe ThE POorS" and for some reason have mandated that they have to get under the LT. Pure bull****. They don’t want the luxury tax overages helping other teams (even tho it’s pennies when it’s divided by 29 teams)!! man **** the corporatization of sports Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NVRamsFan Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 There needs to be a salary floor for both profit sharing and comp picks. If I owned a business I'm sure as hell not going to go to my competitor and write them a check for any reason especially if they won't invest in it themselves. Can't blame teams like the Sox, Cubs and Dodgers who won't go over the cap and face the penalties. Baseball is broken in many ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slateman Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Legit question: Is there anything in the CBA or in MLB rules for owners that prohibits an owner from paying payroll with non-team revenue? For instance, Robert Nutting is the principal owner of the Pirates. In 2018, the Pirates had a revenue of 254 million. If Nutting had said screw it and had the Buccos slap a 200 million dollar payroll together, could Nutting pay for it out of pocket? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 (edited) In 2019 six of the top fifteen teams in total payroll made the playoffs. Six. Less than 50% Of those six teams - one was above the luxury tax level of 206M - the NYY. Now - you're more than a social media baseball owner - you're actually rich - you actually know how to run a business, make money and write checks. Why would you spend more than the luxury tax limit (this year 208M) when you dont have to? Remember - only one playoff team exceeded the luxury tax level in 2019. As already detailed - in the last ten years - the WS was won once by the highest spending team. Once. 10% of the time. In 2019 the 25th and 30th (last) spending teams made the playoffs. The 30th (last) spending team was a game away from the ALCG. The WS winner spent 61M less than the highest spender - the Boston Red Sox (in payroll alone. The spread was wider with the luxury tax penalty BOS is paying gets added in) - and Boston didnt even come close to making the playoffs. Simple fact is, you dont need to be the highest spending team - and actually losing luxury tax money - in order to succeed. Or put another way, to run your business properly. You have to make good baseball (and spending) decisions. Edited December 22, 2019 by Leader Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slateman Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 How many of the not top 15 teams in payroll made the playoffs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Ten teams make the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slateman Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 So if you're in the top 15 in spending you have a greater chance of making the playoffs in 2019 than if you're not? How does that compare over the last give years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 38 minutes ago, Slateman said: So if you're in the top 15 in spending you have a greater chance of making the playoffs in 2019 than if you're not? This is news to no one. The point is that teams dont have to break the bank - or to be specific about it - the luxury tax threshold - in order to be competitive. Again - only one playoff team in 2019 exceeded the luxury tax threshold - the NYY. Threes team total exceeded the luxury tax of 206M in 2019. The NYY made the playoffs. Neither BOS (229M) or CHI (221M) did. The only other team to make the playoffs and exceed the 200M mark were the LAD @ 201.6M. MKE made it spending only 135M - or 94M less than BOS and 86M less than CHI. MN made it spending only 125M - or 104M less than BOS and 96M lesss than CHI. OAK? LOL They've made the playoffs two years running - in the same division as HOU - and could buy a small country for the amount of money they've saved over BOS and CHI. TPA? The lowest payroll but highest achiever in the league - spent 64M in 2019 - or 165M less than BOS and 157M less than CHI. Again - the point is - you dont have to break the bank to be competitive - and if you're the guy writing all the checks over and above what your competition is spending and you're still failing to make the playoffs (or win it all, depending on your personal perspective of success....) you might consider making some changes. I'm a NYY fan. Team spending has been our lifes blood ever since George took over and they'll have the largest 2020 payroll by far - with an equally good shot at winning. But the WS is guaranteed to no one - or no payroll. Just ask the 2019 NYY or BOS or CHI the three teams that exceeded the LT - only to watch the Nats - with the 7th highest payroll (172M) win it all for millions of dollars less. I'm fine with spending - but I like teams that emphasize targeted talent evaluation / coaching that succeed as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyle21121 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 We made a noteable move. Doesn’t seem so bad 4/80. Anyone wanna tell me why it’s bad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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