Johnny Nix Posted October 7, 2019 Author Share Posted October 7, 2019 I seriously doubt the Bengals make any trades. Zac Taylor doesn't strike me as a "give up and get picks for next year", hes gonna want to keep locker room cohesion. However if we are winless by the draft deadline, I think you seriously have to consider trading a few guys. AJ Green- The only way I see him gone is if we get a first round pick. If he doesn't sign a new deal and leaves next year, that will be a huge blunder. Andy Dalton- Seriously doubt we trade him, but if our plan is to draft a QB in round 1 next year, why are you holding on to him? Finley offers similar Dalton traits Tyler Eifert- I'd trade him, we aren't using him enough and his with his injury history, its only a matter of time, try to get a 3rd I doubt they trade anyone on defense, they are already hurting enough there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theJ Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 13 minutes ago, TheVillain112 said: AJ and Geno are legit HOF candidates. But they most likely won't get in if the stay with the Bengals their entire career. Trade them to a contender and their chances go up drastically... I think Geno can get in regardless. He probably needs to hit 100 sacks, which would be a really impressive number for a DT. It also means he'd need to play for another 4 years at a high level. AJ though - this injury bug the last few years has really limited his shot. Statistically, Julio has passed him, and guys like DeAndre Hopkins, Mike Evans, Beckham Jr, etc are closing the gap. He needs to get healthy, stay healthy, and put up some good numbers for the next 5 years or so. Less than 12,000 yards and he has little to no shot. If he can get to 13000 yards, he has a decent shot. 14,000 yards and his chances are much better. 15,000 and he's a lock. Like you said, if he managed some of this on a great team that had some postseason success his chances only get better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DUKE Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 16 minutes ago, johndeere1707 said: I seriously doubt the Bengals make any trades. Zac Taylor doesn't strike me as a "give up and get picks for next year", hes gonna want to keep locker room cohesion. However if we are winless by the draft deadline, I think you seriously have to consider trading a few guys. AJ Green- The only way I see him gone is if we get a first round pick. If he doesn't sign a new deal and leaves next year, that will be a huge blunder. Andy Dalton- Seriously doubt we trade him, but if our plan is to draft a QB in round 1 next year, why are you holding on to him? Finley offers similar Dalton traits Tyler Eifert- I'd trade him, we aren't using him enough and his with his injury history, its only a matter of time, try to get a 3rd I doubt they trade anyone on defense, they are already hurting enough there. If we don't trade AJ and he's healthy at the end of the year and we don't work out an extension, then i'd say 100% he gets franchised. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theJ Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 13 minutes ago, THE DUKE said: If we don't trade AJ and he's healthy at the end of the year and we don't work out an extension, then i'd say 100% he gets franchised. Yes, that is exactly what will happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HangOnSloopy Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Never thought I'd say it, but I'm on board with moving AJ for the rumored 1st. Eifert, Dunlap, Kirkpatrick all shopped as well. We're 2 years from competing, let the building begin. It won't happen though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Yeah, he's not getting any younger. If we can get a first for AJ, go ahead and trade him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INbengalfan Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Maybe, but at a high price. If you are trading him for a pick to use on an OT or LB, you still have to replace him as well. I still think he's worth more to us than we get back in a trade, so I wouldn't do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmittyBacall Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 3 hours ago, HangOnSloopy said: We're 2 years from competing, let the building begin. It won't happen though... That's very generous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason_Bengal_Fl Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 If AJ wants to be here, I keep him. If not I need a 1. Preferably another pick too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetana34 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 On 10/7/2019 at 2:15 PM, johndeere1707 said: I seriously doubt the Bengals make any trades. Zac Taylor doesn't strike me as a "give up and get picks for next year", hes gonna want to keep locker room cohesion. However if we are winless by the draft deadline, I think you seriously have to consider trading a few guys. AJ Green- The only way I see him gone is if we get a first round pick. If he doesn't sign a new deal and leaves next year, that will be a huge blunder. Andy Dalton- Seriously doubt we trade him, but if our plan is to draft a QB in round 1 next year, why are you holding on to him? Finley offers similar Dalton traits Tyler Eifert- I'd trade him, we aren't using him enough and his with his injury history, its only a matter of time, try to get a 3rd I doubt they trade anyone on defense, they are already hurting enough there. Those are some awfully high prices there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theJ Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 12 hours ago, SmittyBacall said: That's very generous. There's really not a team in the NFL that can't be more than two years away. All it takes is a QB, really. Contracts are too short, and careers are too short, for these windows to be any longer than 2-3 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmittyBacall Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 20 minutes ago, theJ said: There's really not a team in the NFL that can't be more than two years away. All it takes is a QB, really. Contracts are too short, and careers are too short, for these windows to be any longer than 2-3 years. I can’t say I trust in our scouting process, or “GMs” Duke Tobin and Katie Blackburn, or Mike Brown to think we’re two or three years away. The only hope we have as fans is if we get lucky and actually draft a great QB. Until then, we won’t draft particularly well, we won’t pay or attract any significant free agents, and good coaches won’t want to sign under this management. The restraints of this mismanaged franchise are too great, only a lotto ticket QB is the way out of purgatory for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Nix Posted October 9, 2019 Author Share Posted October 9, 2019 9 hours ago, smetana34 said: Those are some awfully high prices there. Unfortunately we know our owner and he tends to hold out for max value (see Carson’s Palmer trade, AJ McCarron almost trade) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theJ Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 1 hour ago, SmittyBacall said: I can’t say I trust in our scouting process, or “GMs” Duke Tobin and Katie Blackburn, or Mike Brown to think we’re two or three years away. The only hope we have as fans is if we get lucky and actually draft a great QB. Until then, we won’t draft particularly well, we won’t pay or attract any significant free agents, and good coaches won’t want to sign under this management. The restraints of this mismanaged franchise are too great, only a lotto ticket QB is the way out of purgatory for us. Yes, ownership presents its own challenges. But no franchise can really compete without a QB. This team is 2 years away (meaning, could compete for playoffs or better in 2021) if they manage to find a QB in this years class. If not, who knows how long that will take. But if they miss on a QB this year, you can pretty much guarantee that by the time they roll the dice on the next QB, the younger "core" will be pretty much gone by then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theJ Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 1 hour ago, johndeere1707 said: Unfortunately we know our owner and he tends to hold out for max value (see Carson’s Palmer trade, AJ McCarron almost trade) I don't mind that approach for AJ, because i think he can provide great value to the team for the next 4 years or so. Same with Geno. Selling those guys for 2nd or 3rd round picks is bad team management considering the bust rate in those rounds. But i'd sell Dunlap ASAP. I think he has about 2-3 decent years left. I'd sell Eifert for whatever i could get too, given they're scared to use him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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