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Raiders trade 2021 5th to Bills for WR Zay Jones

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8 hours ago, RaidersAreOne said:

Did you know the Raiders are in the top 10 for youngest rosters?

don't let your facts get in the way of his memes.

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2 hours ago, BigMountainGoat said:

Goodwin and Hogan? 

Hogan has disappeared and Goodwin is an occasional big threat speed guy, just as he was in Buffalo. 

The WR leaving Buffalo narrative is a nice story, but the facts show its nonsense. 

Woods was better, and that's it in recent years. On the flip side John Brown has started the season with his best ever numbers since joining 

No one said they became superstars lol but Goodwin and Hogan definitely got better once they left. And yes John Brown also is having his best year so far with us.

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Catching frozen footballs in Buffalo will make any mediocre WR look worse. Fortunately Oakland is doing really well with mediocre WR’s since the ABego left. Carr would have had to feed that ego and now can distribute the ball to anyone healthy and dressed. Will make him a better QB and that’s needed so we don’t target a rookie next offseason. Jacobs has been the missing piece and I’m happily eating crow by turkey day on that pick. We need another back to complement and keep him fresh but he got hurt in the Bears game and played through the pain. Glad he waited to sign his contract as it gives him security to put it all on the line. Hoping he’s a Frank Gore type of player over his career. 

Jones just needs to get some chemistry with Carr and be a piece of the puzzle. No pressure to be a #1or2. Just be available and work hard.

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12 minutes ago, G said:

Catching frozen footballs in Buffalo will make any mediocre WR look worse. Fortunately Oakland is doing really well with mediocre WR’s since the ABego left. Carr would have had to feed that ego and now can distribute the ball to anyone healthy and dressed. Will make him a better QB and that’s needed so we don’t target a rookie next offseason. Jacobs has been the missing piece and I’m happily eating crow by turkey day on that pick. We need another back to complement and keep him fresh but he got hurt in the Bears game and played through the pain. Glad he waited to sign his contract as it gives him security to put it all on the line. Hoping he’s a Frank Gore type of player over his career. 

Jones just needs to get some chemistry with Carr and be a piece of the puzzle. No pressure to be a #1or2. Just be available and work hard.

I also think our system will be better for him. Sounds like he struggles with contested catches, where our west coast O is all about quick underneath passes and getting guys open quickly. 

Buffalo fans, how is his blocking? We are turning in to quite the run first team and our WR's are asked to block.

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Goodwin is arguable. He’s been occasional deep threat for SF which is what he was for us. 

Statistically Chris Hogan has been the same here as anywhere else. 

Sammy was better here. 

Robert Woods has ONE better season and it was the year LA lost Kupp for season so he saw a lot more targets. Rest of his time he was same. 

Getting more recognized because you’re on a team note popular nationally than Buffalo doesn’t mean that they have become statistically better

 

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11 minutes ago, DER10N92 said:

Goodwin is arguable. He’s been occasional deep threat for SF which is what he was for us. 

Statistically Chris Hogan has been the same here as anywhere else. 

Sammy was better here. 

Robert Woods has ONE better season and it was the year LA lost Kupp for season so he saw a lot more targets. Rest of his time he was same. 

Getting more recognized because you’re on a team note popular nationally than Buffalo doesn’t mean that they have become statistically better

 

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1 hour ago, G said:

Catching frozen footballs in Buffalo will make any mediocre WR look worse. 

So why has John Brown had the best start to a season in his entire career since he joined? 

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1 hour ago, RaidersAreOne said:

Buffalo fans, how is his blocking? We are turning in to quite the run first team and our WR's are asked to block.

OK. Nothing special, nothing terrible. You get the impression he doesn't enjoy the physical side of the game, but he isn't a the worst I've seen 

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10 minutes ago, RaidersAreOne said:

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The people clutching at straws are those pushing the narrative of WRs being better after leaving Buffalo. 

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20 minutes ago, DER10N92 said:

Goodwin is arguable. He’s been occasional deep threat for SF which is what he was for us. 

Statistically Chris Hogan has been the same here as anywhere else. 

Sammy was better here. 

Robert Woods has ONE better season and it was the year LA lost Kupp for season so he saw a lot more targets. Rest of his time he was same. 

Getting more recognized because you’re on a team note popular nationally than Buffalo doesn’t mean that they have become statistically better

 

Robert Woods has had two seasons in LA better than any season he had in Buffalo, he's once again on pace this year to surpass any marks he made in Buffalo. He's been far better in LA than in Buffalo.

Goodwin is on pace to again be far more useful this year in San Fransisco than he ever was in Buffalo.

Chris Hogan had his 3 best seasons in New England. He was better for the Patriots than he was for Buffalo. He was a legit WR3 in New England.

Sammy Watkins is really the only guy you can make a case for, and thats largely because injuries derailed his career.

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2 minutes ago, BigMountainGoat said:

OK. Nothing special, nothing terrible. You get the impression he doesn't enjoy the physical side of the game, but he isn't a the worst I've seen 

That's fair. With his size you'd imagine he would be more physical but maybe that's not the case.

Btw I hope Duke balls out for you guys. Was a beast in the CFL last year.

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11 minutes ago, RaidersAreOne said:

That's fair. With his size you'd imagine he would be more physical but maybe that's not the case.

Btw I hope Duke balls out for you guys. Was a beast in the CFL last year.

Jones issue is in his head. Physically he can play, people saw that at East Carolina where he did all sorts of plays. Its nothing to do with cold or scheme. It's purely mental. 

Will Gruden solve that? Or finish him off? 

No one really knows. 

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Oakland might trade the farm for the guy from Alabama in the draft. 3rd, 5th,3rd,5th

Spent on Bryant, Ab, Zay Jones. At some point he's gonna just stop messing around. 

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6 hours ago, bigbadbuff said:

Goodwin, Robert Woods, Chris Hogan

Fact.

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36 minutes ago, thebestever6 said:

Oakland might trade the farm for the guy from Alabama in the draft. 3rd, 5th,3rd,5th

Spent on Bryant, Ab, Zay Jones. At some point he's gonna just stop messing around. 

Ruggs or Jeudy? Both are great. Raiders have 2 picks and will have a shot at one of them.

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