Week 6: Washington Redskins (0-5) @ Miami Dolphins (0-4)

[hrubes20]

15 hours ago, TheKillerNacho said:

Also can my fellow Dolfans finally admit Josh Rosen simply isn't good?

No.  But I will fully admit that what Rosen has shown isn't anything in the stratosphere of what it would take to not draft Tua at #1.  

But I won't beat around the bush.  Rosen was terrible yesterday.

[FinSting]

2 hours ago, hrubes20 said:

No.  But I will fully admit that what Rosen has shown isn't anything in the stratosphere of what it would take to not draft Tua at #1.  

But I won't beat around the bush.  Rosen was terrible yesterday.

Did any other QB yesterday get sacked 3 times during a 4-snap period? I'm guessing no. 

Would any other QB yesterday be productive while being sacked 3 times during a 4-snap period? Probably no again. 

I watched the Bama-A&M game and Tua had some good throws. None of them seemed like 'wow that guy is instant #1 pick' throws tho. Dude just seems like a left-handed Baker Mayfield to me. 

[TheKillerNacho]

2 hours ago, FinSting said:

Did any other QB yesterday get sacked 3 times during a 4-snap period? I'm guessing no. 

Would any other QB yesterday be productive while being sacked 3 times during a 4-snap period? Probably no again. 

I watched the Bama-A&M game and Tua had some good throws. None of them seemed like 'wow that guy is instant #1 pick' throws tho. Dude just seems like a left-handed Baker Mayfield to me. 

In what way?

Tua seems like a much more accurate passer to me.

[hrubes20]

2 hours ago, FinSting said:

Did any other QB yesterday get sacked 3 times during a 4-snap period? I'm guessing no. 

Would any other QB yesterday be productive while being sacked 3 times during a 4-snap period? Probably no again. 

I watched the Bama-A&M game and Tua had some good throws. None of them seemed like 'wow that guy is instant #1 pick' throws tho. Dude just seems like a left-handed Baker Mayfield to me. 

The O-line was indeed terrible.  But they were perfectly fine on both of these throws that were picked.

 

[FinSting]

30 minutes ago, TheKillerNacho said:

In what way?

Tua seems like a much more accurate passer to me.

In the way they'll both end up drafted #1 then have trouble living up to the hype. 

[FinSting]

23 minutes ago, hrubes20 said:

The O-line was indeed terrible.  But they were perfectly fine on both of these throws that were picked.

 

First Miami series — one coverage sack, one gourd-ringer sack. Ouch. You get your bell rung multiple times early, it's deer-in-headlights time. 

2nd Miami series -- BOOM sacked on the very first play. 

3rd Miami series -- You guessed it. Sackology, down goes Rosen. Down goes Rosen. 

4th Miami series -- "Will I die out here?" wonders Rosen. INT in 3..2..1. 

[TheKillerNacho]

2 hours ago, FinSting said:

In the way they'll both end up drafted #1 then have trouble living up to the hype. 

That's some quality analysis, there.

[FinSting]

32 minutes ago, TheKillerNacho said:

That's some quality analysis, there.

Thanks for your support. You are the most negative Fins Fan around here. Try to change plz. 

[TheKillerNacho]

5 minutes ago, FinSting said:

Thanks for your support. You are the most negative Fins Fan around here. Try to change plz. 

lol

Not sure what you mean by this, I just call things like I see it, I don't drink the cool aide.

I'm not completely sold on Tua myself; drafting QBs is always a crap shoot and we have no pieces in place to help a rookie QB. But at least if you're going to criticize him, try to articulate why instead of comparing him to a player who he shares few similarities to.

[FinSting]

12 hours ago, TheKillerNacho said:

m not completely sold on Tua myself; drafting QBs is always a crap shoot and we have no pieces in place to help a rookie QB. But at least if you're going to criticize him, try to articulate why instead of comparing him to a player who he shares few similarities to.

Tua and Baker are both 6'1". My work here is done. 

Ok mebbe not. Did you see the A&M game? Tua throws a pass behind the line of scrimmage to a guy who then meanders his way through the defense for a TD. Well there's an unimpressive 31-yd TD pass.

Need to see more. LSU and Auburn coming up. 

[TheKillerNacho]

1 hour ago, FinSting said:

Tua and Baker are both 6'1". My work here is done. 

Ok mebbe not. Did you see the A&M game? Tua throws a pass behind the line of scrimmage to a guy who then meanders his way through the defense for a TD. Well there's an unimpressive 31-yd TD pass.

Need to see more. LSU and Auburn coming up. 

I can see that. It's hard to gauge just how good Tua is when he's a member of such a stacked team.

[Tetsujin]

He'll make some impressive tight throws, but a majority are bombs and slants. His pocket mobility/scrambling is really nice, too.

[hrubes20]

17 hours ago, FinSting said:

First Miami series — one coverage sack, one gourd-ringer sack. Ouch. You get your bell rung multiple times early, it's deer-in-headlights time. 

2nd Miami series -- BOOM sacked on the very first play. 

3rd Miami series -- You guessed it. Sackology, down goes Rosen. Down goes Rosen. 

4th Miami series -- "Will I die out here?" wonders Rosen. INT in 3..2..1. 

Which is evidence that Rosen isn't playing well.  The good ones are still able to make the throws when the protection presents itself, which Rosen clearly didn't do.  Again, I think Rosen has talent.  But he needs to show a lot more before this team can pass on a 1st round QB in April.  

[FinSting]

38 minutes ago, hrubes20 said:

Which is evidence that Rosen isn't playing well.  

Other than the punter, who IS playing well? It's that kind of year. 

[hrubes20]

15 minutes ago, FinSting said:

Other than the punter, who IS playing well? It's that kind of year. 

The new LS hasn't been too bad?