Danger Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 I'm going to start having a what-if scenario each week. (There were a couple before the season started and I really liked the idea). Arguably the most iconic catch in NFL history with the crazy jump, how close it game to needing the ground to help the catch, and the sheer opponent who they were facing. What if it was incomplete, whether Tyree just can't pull it in, or what if Rodney Harrison is just able to jar it loose? What rippling effects does this send throughout the NFL for years to come? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 I'd have those 4 extra years of my life 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyB Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Patriots win the game, going 19-0 for the season. Historic. Amazing. Unparalleled. Belichick and Brady both decide there's nothing left to accomplish and retire the next day dynasty over done bye. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabbs4u Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 (edited) The 2007 Patriot actually go down as the best team in NFL history, like they were. What Brady ,Moss and that offense did that year to every other team was absurd! Only singular reason it doesnt get it's due justice/recognition, is the Tyree catch non SB ring. Otherwise any and every conversation when comparisons are being made about X Team, would start and end with the 2007 Patriots! Edited October 9, 2019 by Nabbs4u 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilflamingo Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 The sad thing is, the catch shouldn't have mattered. Some of the most blatant holds ever being uncalled is what made the play possible to even begin with. Say what you will about the underdog angle but that just ruins it for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyB Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 10 minutes ago, Nabbs4u said: The 2007 Patriot actually go down as the best team in NFL history, like they were. What Brady ,Moss and that offense did that year to every other team was absurd! Only singular reason it doesnt get it's due justice/recognition, is the Tyree catch non SB ring. Otherwise any and every conversation when comparisons are being made about X Team, would start with the 2007 Patriots! I think they get a little overrated at this point actually. They shot out of the gate like a cannon, but by the final stretch of the season they were mortal. Several teams took decent shots at them and almost won. The defense as long in the tooth and was fraying at times. Not "Best Team in NFL History" material. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabbs4u Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, DannyB said: I think they get a little overrated at this point actually. They shot out of the gate like a cannon, but by the final stretch of the season they were mortal. Several teams took decent shots at them and almost won. The defense as long in the tooth and was fraying at times. Not "Best Team in NFL History" material. If the 72' Dolphins continue to be in the conversation because of no other reason then they were 14-0, there is Zero doubt a 19-0 Patriots team with one of the best Offensive Seasons in history, would have too! Zero Doubt! Edited October 9, 2019 by Nabbs4u 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyB Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 28 minutes ago, Nabbs4u said: If the 72' Dolphins continue to be in the concersation because of no other reason then they were 14-0, there is Zero doubt a 19-0 Patriots team with one of the best Offensive Seasons in history, would have too! Zero Doubt! Of course they'd be in the conversation, because of their record. I just don't think they would be the best team. Just like I don't think those stupid Dolphins are either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elky Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 (edited) What if Belichick elected to kick instead of going for it on 4th and 13? What if Asante Samuel snagged that interception? What if our defense recovered one of those two fumbles? What if our offensive line didn't collapse? Edited October 8, 2019 by Elky 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMossIsBoss Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Assuming no butterfly effect, 2 biggest changes: 07 Pats go down as best team in history, and are now counting 8 rings instead of just 7. Eli Manning is not even in the HOF conversation. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Small Town Values Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Common sense would prevail & Eli wouldn't sniff the HOF. Very good, yes / HOF, no. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7DnBrnc53 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 20 minutes ago, Elky said: What if Belichick elected to kick instead of going for it on 4th and 13? What if Asante Samuel snagged that interception? What if our defense recovered one of those two fumbles? What if our offensive line didn't collapse? Or, what if Eli hit Plaxico with about eight minutes left in the game? The Giants had the ball around their own 40. Eli ran up to the line of scrimmage, and threw a ball to Plaxico (who was around midfield) that went over his head. If he hits him, I think that Burress had an additional 10 free yards or so to run. New York could have went back to Big Jake and Bradshaw to put the game away, and there would have been no helmet catch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nextsuperstar1 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 I don’t think NE losing that game particularly changed the direction of the league. Patriots kept the same philosophy in the following years. Dropping that catch would not have prevented Brady’s injury in 2008. Accordingly, the Patriots would likely just have seven rings rather than six. Maybe Tom Coughlin wouldn’t have lasted as long in NY, but I’m not sure that changes the league. Its not like like “what if the tuck was called a fumble in the 2001 playoffs.” Or “what if Bledsoe slid instead of taking the Mo Lewis hit” earlier that year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elky Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 1 minute ago, nextsuperstar1 said: I don’t think NE losing that game particularly changed the direction of the league. Patriots kept the same philosophy in the following years. Dropping that catch would not have prevented Brady’s injury in 2008. Accordingly, the Patriots would likely just have seven rings rather than six. Maybe Tom Coughlin wouldn’t have lasted as long in NY, but I’m not sure that changes the league. Its not like like “what if the tuck was called a fumble in the 2001 playoffs.” Or “what if Bledsoe slid instead of taking the Mo Lewis hit” earlier that year. We don't play KC week 1 if we won SB42. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nextsuperstar1 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Elky said: We don't play KC week 1 if we won SB42. Ok. Butterfly effect. The schedules slightly different so different outcomes occur. Randy Moss, Welker and Brady have slightly better career numbers, Matt Cassel is never given the chance to start. My point remains valid, that catch didn’t change the direction of the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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