Elky Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, nextsuperstar1 said: Ok. Butterfly effect. The schedules slightly different so different outcomes occur. Randy Moss, Welker and Brady have slightly better career numbers, Matt Cassel is never given the chance to start. My point remains valid, that catch didn’t change the direction of the league. It completely changes the direction of the league. A healthy Brady could easily mean Pittsburgh doesn't win the Super Bowl. Cassel never starting means KC drafts Sanchez. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolts223 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 (edited) It's hard to say everything but here is what likely happens in terms of butterfly effect. - The Patriots win SB 42 - The 2007 Patriots are generally considered the GOAT single season team. - Brady isn't injured in week 1 of 08 as they probably play against another team on TNF week 1. - Because Brady isn't injured week 1, the Pats most likely go to the SB that year. - Tomlin doesn't have the same job security because he doesn't have the ring from SB43 - Coughlin likely gets fired after the collapses in 2009/2010 and 2011 never happens. - The 49ers/Packers or Patriots win SB46 as a result of the last thing. - If it's the 49ers who win, there is a slightly less chance that Harbaugh gets chased out. (But probably still happens) I probably am missing some other things but that seems like a good start. Edit: Oh yeah and Eli isn't even in the conversation for being a HOF QB. Like it would be laughable to even bring him up. Edited October 9, 2019 by Bolts223 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7DnBrnc53 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Elky said: Cassel never starting means KC drafts Sanchez. Also, if McDiapers still takes over in Denver, maybe he ends up being stuck with Cutler since he won't trade for Cassel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDez Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 The next year if the real what if. How do they follow it up? From that point the Pats had some pretty big playoff failures before the Cundiff missed FG. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolts223 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 17 minutes ago, DirtyDez said: The next year if the real what if. How do they follow it up? From that point the Pats had some pretty big playoff failures before the Cundiff missed FG. I mean in 2009 that team wasn’t going anywhere anyways. 2010 is the only big playoff failure in terms of losing a game they had no business losing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
childofpudding Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 NYG goes for it on 4th and 5, converts, and goes on to score a TD anyway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolts223 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, childofpudding said: NYG goes for it on 4th and 5, converts, and goes on to score a TD anyway In all reality it's a miracle that Eli wasn't sacked on that play. It should've been like 4 & 12. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted October 9, 2019 Author Share Posted October 9, 2019 3 hours ago, RandyMossIsBoss said: Assuming no butterfly effect, 2 biggest changes: Ah see, this is what I want though. What ripples and shockwaves does this send throughout the entire league, and how does it change oh so many things? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDez Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Bolts223 said: I mean in 2009 that team wasn’t going anywhere anyways. 2010 is the only big playoff failure in terms of losing a game they had no business losing. That’s true I had my years mixed up. I thought they lost to Flacco twice and Sanchez before the Cundiff game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolts223 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, DirtyDez said: That’s true I had my years mixed up. I thought they lost to Flacco twice and Sanchez before the Cundiff game. I mean you can argue that the 2012 AFC Championship against the Ravens was a game that falls under a playoff failure and you wouldn't be wrong, but that was after the Cundiff game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Third Rider Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, evilflamingo said: The sad thing is, the catch shouldn't have mattered. Some of the most blatant holds ever being uncalled is what made the play possible to even begin with. Say what you will about the underdog angle but that just ruins it for me. This, to me the catch doesn't bother me that much, Harrison should have played it better, that was his fault I can live with that. However, the absolute blatant hold on our Dline during that play grinds my gears, that play should have never have happened. You can even see Seymour being held by the throat. sickning Edited October 9, 2019 by The Third Rider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viper952 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 2007 Patriots are the most overrated team ever. Should have lost to the Ravens. Superbowl should have never come down to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmen Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 8 hours ago, The Third Rider said: This, to me the catch doesn't bother me that much, Harrison should have played it better, that was his fault I can live with that. However, the absolute blatant hold on our Dline during that play grinds my gears, that play should have never have happened. You can even see Seymour being held by the throat. sickning NFL history would vastly different if officiating was 100% correct all the time. Your own Patriots were the beneficiaries of the terrible tuck ruling. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leoric Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 I guarantee we would have had less Peyton vs Brady threads on here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duluther Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 5 hours ago, viper952 said: 2007 Patriots are the most overrated team ever. Should have lost to the Ravens. Superbowl should have never come down to that. Awesome! I'm proud of you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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