spilltray Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Just now, squire12 said: Since my post count is 1/6 of the incognito_man, offering that few would be like a 1 to 1 Koruna to US dollar. Probably more like 500 squire points who says points = post counts? If anything Incog throws out points pretty liberally so there are more in circulation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 What would a Cobb restructure look like? Take the $9.5M that is due to Cobb in Base and other bonuses and turn that into signing bonus over 2-3 years? Adding a few $M for base and such so something like 3 years (additional) for $15-17M total 2018 = $3.25M (previous signing bonus cap number) + some base $$ ...like $1.5M 2019 = $5.5M 2020 = $4.5M 2021 = $3.5M Just spit balling some number....truly have no idea on what it would be. Don't think I would like that type of restructure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 12 minutes ago, spilltray said: who says points = post counts? If anything Incog throws out points pretty liberally so there are more in circulation. I was under the impression that you could use those points at the company store. Pick up a nice can Koozie or plastic wine glasses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 12 hours ago, spilltray said: Personally I think they will figure out a structure for Adams to work but let Cobb play it out. Having 3 WRs that are capable starters and have that comfort level in the offense is worth just letting it play out and getting some more talent on board. These late round guys are nice developmental prospects but this offense needs 5-6 WRs anyway over a season so I think they'll still have spots to fight for. If you add a boundary guy with starter potential he can be the #4 for a year unless he earns more, letting Cobb walk after 2018. I don't want to restructure Cobb either because that will undoubtedly mean an extension and I think it's time to get younger at WR. There's no way we keep $36million worth of WRs next year. I'll be shocked if Cobb plays under his contract next season. It just doesn't add up IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 2 hours ago, incognito_man said: There's no way we keep $36million worth of WRs next year. I'll be shocked if Cobb plays under his contract next season. It just doesn't add up IMO. If it adds up for Russ Ball, that is all that matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Cobb stats thus far... 23 for 218 and 1 TD. And he's trending downward. Hopefully this is the week he blows back up. Game 1: 9 for 85. Game 2: 6 for 60. Game 3: 4 for 44. 1 TD Game 4: 4 for 29. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 33 minutes ago, squire12 said: If it adds up for Russ Ball, that is all that matters. It doesn't add up for anyone. There's no way all 3 WRs are in the team with Cobb and jordys current contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packers Select Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Just a thought, would anyone trade Cobb for DRC right now given the developments in his situation with the Giants? Or maybe a DB swap w/ Randall for DRC? A lot of weird variables would line up (Ex. Our relationship with their head coach, their need for a WR, exchange of DBs in the doghouse, etc.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugger Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Csraverage said: Just a thought, would anyone trade Cobb for DRC right now given the developments in his situation with the Giants? Or maybe a DB swap w/ Randall for DRC? A lot of weird variables would line up (Ex. Our relationship with their head coach, their need for a WR, exchange of DBs in the doghouse, etc.) Why would we want yet another malcontent CB in our locker room?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibrett15 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 3 hours ago, Csraverage said: Just a thought, would anyone trade Cobb for DRC right now given the developments in his situation with the Giants? Or maybe a DB swap w/ Randall for DRC? A lot of weird variables would line up (Ex. Our relationship with their head coach, their need for a WR, exchange of DBs in the doghouse, etc.) I wouldn't trade randall for DRC, but I would trade cobb for him. We'll want Randall, King, and DRC/House next year. DRC is signed through 2018. That's actually a really good re-allocation. The issue for the giants is that they aren't trying to win this year, so they don't really need cobb. And next year they have a "slot only" guy they like in Sterling Shepard who would compete with Cobb for snaps. I like the fit here but I doubt they feel the same. EDIT: I didn't see all this noise about his suspension and his walking out on the team. We don't need that from a vet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 Personally I want DRC on the team. I think he really helps the pass defense. Malcontent or not. But...you don't mess with success right now. You keep your QB happy. And he likes Cobb. Now, if DRC gets cut???? Label me as extremely interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spilltray Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 9 hours ago, incognito_man said: There's no way we keep $36million worth of WRs next year. I'll be shocked if Cobb plays under his contract next season. It just doesn't add up IMO. In AAV, sure, in cap hit? Say you structure Adams deal light in year 1 and restructure and extend Nelson next offseason bringing next year's cap number down. Getting rid of Cobb means you are 1 injury away from a rookie unknown or a guy like Allison being your #2 WR and that isn't worth whatever cap hit you save by cutting Cobb. They can play cap games to make the numbers work next year and the upside to having developed passing options is worth it IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 1 minute ago, spilltray said: In AAV, sure, in cap hit? Say you structure Adams deal light in year 1 and restructure and extend Nelson next offseason bringing next year's cap number down. Getting rid of Cobb means you are 1 injury away from a rookie unknown or a guy like Allison being your #2 WR and that isn't worth whatever cap hit you save by cutting Cobb. They can play cap games to make the numbers work next year and the upside to having developed passing options is worth it IMO. it doesn't really matter how you massage the cap to make it work, either way you're paying WWAAAYYY too much for WRs in a single year. That's just bad roster management however you play with the numbers. Cobb just isn't worth $12million a year anymore (if he ever was) as a #3 WR. There will be plenty of WRs in free agency if the team isn't happy with an Adams/Nelson/Allison/Davis/Dupree/Janis corp heading into 2018 and want another vet over a rook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spilltray Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 41 minutes ago, incognito_man said: it doesn't really matter how you massage the cap to make it work, either way you're paying WWAAAYYY too much for WRs in a single year. That's just bad roster management however you play with the numbers. Cobb just isn't worth $12million a year anymore (if he ever was) as a #3 WR. There will be plenty of WRs in free agency if the team isn't happy with an Adams/Nelson/Allison/Davis/Dupree/Janis corp heading into 2018 and want another vet over a rook. I still disagree. It was 10 average and the big years at the end are kind of pay off for the cheap years up front. Letting guys play those deals out if they are solid contributors is good in my opinion from an organizational management point of view. You get players to take those deals when you need them to because they trust you to honor them. They've let similar guys play out deals before over and over. If someone is willing to give up something of value for Cobb that's one thing, but I still think he's worth letting play out his contract from a few different viewpoints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 11 minutes ago, spilltray said: I still disagree. It was 10 average and the big years at the end are kind of pay off for the cheap years up front. Letting guys play those deals out if they are solid contributors is good in my opinion from an organizational management point of view. You get players to take those deals when you need them to because they trust you to honor them. They've let similar guys play out deals before over and over. If someone is willing to give up something of value for Cobb that's one thing, but I still think he's worth letting play out his contract from a few different viewpoints. I'm curious who the next highest paid #3 WR on a team is. I bet it's about about 25% of Cobb's contract next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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