Kiwibrown Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 I have always thought that NFL defense could learn a lot from rugby tackling. Here urban cites as a better and safer tackle. Check to check Kill the grab the legs Lead with the shoulder not the head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabbs4u Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 So does this mean the Redskins will be better at tackling next year after Daniel Snyder makes him the highest paid HC in history? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMossIsBoss Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Is this anything new? I was taught to tackle like this since peewee (in my 20s now) to protect your neck, and that's always been considered the textbook tackle whenever commentators or analysts are talking about tackling (lead with shoulder, wrap up and drive). At least in the 15 years I've been watching. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Ramster Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, RandyMossIsBoss said: Is this anything new? I was taught to tackle like this since peewee (in my 20s now) to protect your neck, and that's always been considered the textbook tackle whenever commentators or analysts are talking about tackling (lead with shoulder, wrap up and drive). At least in the 15 years I've been watching. I once tried doing that to a Samoan! Dude weight a solid 360.. Muscle and just some a bit of fat. Brother, dude ran me over and I’m 100% sure I got a concussion. Never again. Edited October 12, 2019 by ITS_RAMMY_PLAYBOI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 You watching Bruce Allen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted October 12, 2019 Author Share Posted October 12, 2019 15 minutes ago, ITS_RAMMY_PLAYBOI said: I once tried doing that to a Samoan! Dude weight a solid 360.. Muscle and just some a bit of fat. Brother, dude ran me over and I’m 100% sure I got a concussion. Never again. Traditional tackoing would not have helped that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_W Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 so... what is the strategy to stop a freight train.?? (without intent to injure) assuming you're in the path of it; rather than coming up on the side and doing a stagecoach robbery do you grab the cloth to try and tip them one way to forgo a contested drive-back completely since you're going to lose that 99% of the time is there a strategy that works if you have a second player to assist your plan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedTheClock Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, Ryan_W said: so... what is the strategy to stop a freight train.?? (without intent to injure) assuming you're in the path of it; rather than coming up on the side and doing a stagecoach robbery do you grab the cloth to try and tip them one way to forgo a contested drive-back completely since you're going to lose that 99% of the time is there a strategy that works if you have a second player to assist your plan You hit low. Works every time. I used to be a beast of a ball carrier in HS (Alstott-ish style), but as soon as someone hit me BELOW THE KNEES I went down like a sack of potatoes. Like embarrassingly fast. It wasn’t taught to go low all that much in 2006. Coaching now, this is what we teach and it’s working very well for us. It also seems like something that will be universal in a year or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 6 hours ago, ITS_RAMMY_PLAYBOI said: I once tried doing that to a Samoan! Dude weight a solid 360.. Muscle and just some a bit of fat. Brother, dude ran me over and I’m 100% sure I got a concussion. Never again. Now I see 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 9 hours ago, Kiwibrown said: You know something I've never understood - it's why NFL teams don't adopt the rugby passing system on plays. Everyone goes crazy when a team does a 'hook and lateral' which is basically a rugby pass out the back door. Why don't they do this more often? Build in plays that is designed to get two runners available, when defenders swarm for the pass-catcher, he passes it to the free runner - TD every single time. I guess it wouldn't take long for teams to be wise to it, but it would be a total nightmare for defenses. They KIND of do it on a QB option play, when he keeps it then tosses it when he gets the LB to commit - that's rugby. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted October 12, 2019 Author Share Posted October 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, Hunter2_1 said: You know something I've never understood - it's why NFL teams don't adopt the rugby passing system on plays. Everyone goes crazy when a team does a 'hook and lateral' which is basically a rugby pass out the back door. Why don't they do this more often? Build in plays that is designed to get two runners available, when defenders swarm for the pass-catcher, he passes it to the free runner - TD every single time. I guess it wouldn't take long for teams to be wise to it, but it would be a total nightmare for defenses. They KIND of do it on a QB option play, when he keeps it then tosses it when he gets the LB to commit - that's rugby. One issue is possesion of the ball. In rugby turnovers are more common than the nfl, and losing the ball isnt an absolute disaster. Rugby has less demensions of attack and defense in play also. In rugby there is stricter offsides rules, the defense is in front of you most of the game, it isnt true in the nfl when a wr has the ball, there can be peopel coming from 360 degrees, it would become less safe to pass of it was common. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, Kiwibrown said: One issue is possesion of the ball. In rugby turnovers are more common than the nfl, and losing the ball isnt an absolute disaster. Rugby has less demensions of attack and defense in play also. In rugby there is stricter offsides rules, the defense is in front of you most of the game, it isnt true in the nfl when a wr has the ball, there can be peopel coming from 360 degrees, it would become less safe to pass of it was common. True. Maybe only in certain situations. How many times have you seen a WR running down the sideline with only 1 safety left in who simply pushes him out of bounds - if an offense can design a second runner to follow in behind him....receive the pass...you know the rest. What you say is true though, this is why they don't do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 So this new tackling that he's demonstrating has been the way that people have been taught to tackle since at least 1999. There's nothing new about this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceinthehouse Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 13 hours ago, Nabbs4u said: So does this mean the Redskins will be better at tackling next year after Daniel Snyder makes him the highest paid HC in history? I sure hope he does. He would be a great hire! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Tackling is more of an effort problem than a technique problem IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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