bucsfan333 Posted October 16, 2019 Author Share Posted October 16, 2019 17 minutes ago, Caaddy24 said: I disagree it would be a rebuild move at all. It's about getting good value back, so we can use that good value at a different position of need. We do have a lot of other "positions of need". As long as we don't use that pick on a CB! We "need" a third receiver after Mike and Godwin. Howard has shown he can be that guy. Right now, Ogunbowale is our third leading receiver. That should excite nobody. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucsDraftGeek47 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Anything less than a 2nd is a tragic loss 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caaddy24 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 7 hours ago, bucsfan333 said: We "need" a third receiver after Mike and Godwin. Howard has shown he can be that guy. Right now, Ogunbowale is our third leading receiver. That should excite nobody. Are you saying every team needs a third WR with his talent? Or just us? I hate to trade away proven talent like Howard but he's a luxury right now Imo. I don't think with we need three pro bowl WR's on the team. Especially with a struggling QB that isn't able to use him to his full potential. Could even use his trade return for a QB or Patrick Peterson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan333 Posted October 16, 2019 Author Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Caaddy24 said: Are you saying every team needs a third WR with his talent? Or just us? I hate to trade away proven talent like Howard but he's a luxury right now Imo. I don't think with we need three pro bowl WR's on the team. Especially with a struggling QB that isn't able to use him to his full potential. Could even use his trade return for a QB or Patrick Peterson. I just mean a third reliable option after our top two WRs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingone Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) 40 minutes ago, bucsfan333 said: I just mean a third reliable option after our top two WRs. So far that reliable 3rd target has been Cam Brate. He pretty much catches every ball. I like Howard, but he is having issues catching the ball even after SF. Maybe Howard is being shopped for another player? No clue who Edited October 16, 2019 by ravishingone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucsDraftGeek47 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Howard goes to the Pats and hes instantly Gronk 2.0 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingone Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 22 minutes ago, BucsDraftGeek47 said: Howard goes to the Pats and hes instantly Gronk 2.0 I guess if he learns to actually run the entire route tree and u know catch the ball consistently. At this point, I d settle for a more athletic version of Cam Brate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sryan66611 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 13 hours ago, BucsDraftGeek47 said: Anything less than a 2nd is a tragic loss agreed I just want some production or draft picks preferably a 1st or 2nd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucsDraftGeek47 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, ravishingone said: I guess if he learns to actually run the entire route tree and u know catch the ball consistently. At this point, I d settle for a more athletic version of Cam Brate. i think youre just down on OJ i get it, i do but IMO we are just not utilizing him AT ALL , not giving him opportunities , and hes lost confidence so essentially the coaching staff is doing this to Howard and it shows 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucsDraftGeek47 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, sryan66611 said: agreed I just want some production or draft picks preferably a 1st or 2nd welp, all we do is draft 2nd round Corners and we suck at that so lets u and me keep hoping lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caaddy24 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 hour ago, BucsDraftGeek47 said: i think youre just down on OJ i get it, i do but IMO we are just not utilizing him AT ALL , not giving him opportunities , and hes lost confidence so essentially the coaching staff is doing this to Howard and it shows Yeah that's a good point. He just doesn't look that into it right now. When you're used sparingly you're gonna be a little rusty. All WR's drop balls every now and then. But it looks even worse when you're only getting 2-4 looks a game. But again, with Godwin now emerging as another star, these 3 big WRs (yes I'm grouping Howard in as a WR), SOMEONE is going to get the short end. Hard to tell what the offense would look like without him of course, maybe much worse. I think Evans and Godwin will be here for the long haul. So, I say we use his value somewhere else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sryan66611 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 They need to utilize him like the Giants do with Evan Engram they are about the same athletically Evan gets the nod there but Howard is bigger / stronger/ better blocker. I know it won't happen but one can dream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan333 Posted October 17, 2019 Author Share Posted October 17, 2019 15 hours ago, ravishingone said: That's two sources. Seems pretty concrete to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingone Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 40 minutes ago, bucsfan333 said: That's two sources. Seems pretty concrete to me. Yup, sounds like this is legit, which I m ok with moving fwd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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