RavensDefense3 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Rainmaker90 said: I can’t believe Booger McFarland’s on air tantrum is sparking this debate... there is no debate. lions should've won that game. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee & Contemplation Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Damikeeeee said: 😂😂😂😂 Just stop. With that view you can't ever see his hand NOT on the face time. ... you can touch a receiver's face mask and it not be DPI or a face mask penalty. This doesn't meet the criteria for DPI or a face mask penalty. Contact is made when the ball arrives and the receiver isn't having their face mask pulled, or head turned in the slightest. Honestly, if that play is DPI or a face mask then there would be yellows flying on every passing play. Edited October 15, 2019 by Coffee & Contemplation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted October 16, 2019 Author Share Posted October 16, 2019 14 hours ago, Matts4313 said: imagine how good our offense would be if we didnt force teams to have to try to bend the rules to beat it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nagahide13 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, LeotheLion said: But you'd agree it's a good interpretation of the rule? I believe that is how it has been called for a while now, either way. But; The rule says that a defender can't initiate contact with a defenseless receiver. It goes so far as to say, "Even if the defender is trying to separate the receiver from the ball". So I guess the question is whether the defender is automatically initiating, regardless of intention. I actually don't know if that's the case. If so, good call. If not, based on the lettering of the defenseless receiver rule it seems like it pretty clearly requires intent to initiate contact. Edited October 16, 2019 by nagahide13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 23 hours ago, RavensDefense3 said: there is no debate. lions should've won that game. Lol what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TL-TwoWinsAway Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 10 minutes ago, incognito_man said: Lol what? I'm curious: if the Lions had the ball with 1:30 left and the ball on the 20, down by 1 with 0 timeouts, what do you think the odds are that they win the game? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, TL-TwoWinsAway said: I'm curious: if the Lions had the ball with 1:30 left and the ball on the 20, down by 1 with 0 timeouts, what do you think the odds are that they win the game? < 30.49% Edited October 16, 2019 by incognito_man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanedorf Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 everybody knows the lions lead the league in games they should have won In the fourth quarter, the passing statistics tell the story: Stafford was only 1-of-6 passing for 7 yards the lions drives in the 2nd half were: 3 plays for -3 yards 4 plays for 2 yards 5 plays for 6 yards 4 plays for 8 yards 6 plays for 16 yards the only "successful" drive covered 34 yards . So the lions would have needed to do something they hadn't done in in 6 consecutive tries: Drive 50 + yards on offense. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waterfish_21 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 23 hours ago, RavensDefense3 said: there is no debate. lions should've won that game. No debate? LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TL-TwoWinsAway Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 18 minutes ago, incognito_man said: < 30.49% Interesting. Fair response. I feel it's on the low side, all things considered, but not unreasonable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waterfish_21 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) 11 hours ago, Malfatron said: imagine how good our offense would be if we didnt force teams to have to try to bend the rules to beat it Terrible cherry picked stat to try and make a point. It's not the Packers fault the other team commit penalties. Also Rodgers likes to through it deep when he knows its a PI/holding or 12 men on field, leading to more PI penalties etc. I see so many QB's who don't take advantage of this(I watch every single play of every single game) it blows my mind. A lot of times a QB will see a DL jump than he throws the screen or a check down for a 4 yard gain. Take the free shot, its ******* free! Edited October 16, 2019 by waterfish_21 speeeling 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 minute ago, TL-TwoWinsAway said: Interesting. Fair response. I feel it's on the low side, all things considered, but not unreasonable. http://pfref.com/tiny/3wI01 cant input timeouts, hence the < Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TL-TwoWinsAway Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 10 minutes ago, incognito_man said: http://pfref.com/tiny/3wI01 cant input timeouts, hence the < Wait. That's a generic calculation? Eh, I don't think that's valid when discussing the circumstances of a specific game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jameson_Neat Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 12 minutes ago, Shanedorf said: everybody knows the lions lead the league in games they should have won In the fourth quarter, the passing statistics tell the story: Stafford was only 1-of-6 passing for 7 yards the lions drives in the 2nd half were: 3 plays for -3 yards 4 plays for 2 yards 5 plays for 6 yards 4 plays for 8 yards 6 plays for 16 yards the only "successful" drive covered 34 yards . So the lions would have needed to do something they hadn't done in in 6 consecutive tries: Drive 50 + yards on offense. Why are we assuming Crosby is automatic there? And how do you know where the drive starts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 32 minutes ago, TL-TwoWinsAway said: Wait. That's a generic calculation? Eh, I don't think that's valid when discussing the circumstances of a specific game. Lol ok A random guess is so much better im sure You were ok with my randomly saying 30.49% but take issue when you find out it was generated using data from every NFL game in history? I'm actually laughing at the absurdity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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