Tugboat Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, JaguarCrazy2832 said: He fit the same scheme implemented when we had a #1 defense just fine Yeah. This mythos that he didn't fit the Jaguars scheme is pretty much rubbish. He was utilized plenty well, as part of an absolutely beastly defense. It's not as though the Jaguars defense has radically shifted schematically since then either. Sure, it may not always be what Jalen personally would want to play every snap...but that just opens a whole different can of worms. If playing the coverage he personally wants to play is more important to him than being an important cog in a terrific overall defensive unit where he might be asked to use his flexible skillset to do other things...what does that really say about him? If he's going to pout and half-*** snaps because he doesn't feel like playing a particular called coverage as part of the unit...what does that really say about him? It seems like it's more, "Jalen fancies himself a coach", rather than the actual coaches just flagrantly "misusing" his skillset. He's more than capable of excelling the way they generally used him - if he puts in the effort. Part of what does make him such a special talent...is that versatility he brings to the table. But versatility doesn't mean much, if the player stubbornly isn't willing to use all the tools at their disposal. Edited October 17, 2019 by Tugboat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocky_rams Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Nabbs4u said: I interpreted it the same way? As if SF beating you last Sunday made them to cocky in your opinion? Apologies, glad that's cleared up!🍺 I think he meant Ali G 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4L Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Tugboat said: Yeah. This mythos that he didn't fit the Jaguars scheme is pretty much rubbish. He was utilized plenty well, as part of an absolutely beastly defense. It's not as though the Jaguars defense has radically shifted schematically since then either. Sure, it may not always be what Jalen personally would want to play every snap...but that just opens a whole different can of worms. If playing the coverage he personally wants to play is more important to him than being an important cog in a terrific overall defensive unit where he might be asked to use his flexible skillset to do other things...what does that really say about him? If he's going to pout and half-*** snaps because he doesn't feel like playing a particular called coverage as part of the unit...what does that really say about him? It seems like it's more, "Jalen fancies himself a coach", rather than the actual coaches just flagrantly "misusing" his skillset. He's more than capable of excelling the way they generally used him - if he puts in the effort. Part of what does make him such a special talent...is that versatility he brings to the table. But versatility doesn't mean much, if the player stubbornly isn't willing to use all the tools at their disposal. This is completely fair commentary but the thing is... Wade Phillips runs the exact type of scheme Ramsey wants to play They aren't going to ask him to do what he doesn't want to do. They are going to have him play press man... a lot So your entire post becomes moot, and it's why this was a savvy move for the Rams. I have no idea who they will play on the other side, and I still think you can have their safties with speed, but their defense was horrible this year and now their defense should be a lot better No one was talking about how bad their offense was until they ran into the best defense in the NFC last week. Everyone was talking about how bad their OL was, and that Goff struggles while pressured. Not everyone will pressure him like the 49ers pressured him. What they are doing isn't sustainable but that's tomorrow's problems. Worry about that other stuff when it happens. Killer moves on their part but that still won't get them a home playoff game this year 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabbs4u Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, N4L said: What they are doing isn't sustainable but that's tomorrow's problems. Worry about that other stuff when it happens. Killer moves on their part but that still won't get them a home playoff game this year Do the Rams even play Home games in that Stadium technically? Won't matter "advantage wise" either way IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 5 hours ago, Nabbs4u said: Do the Rams even play Home games in that Stadium technically? Won't matter "advantage wise" either way IMO. Hard to argue with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 10 hours ago, ET80 said: The Rams are not Ali... Get that nonsense outta here. Rams might be Ricardo Spain, walked into a fight with Mike Tyson and got womped... I think you mean Manny Pacquiao. Sure, we didn't beat Floyd Mayweather, but he's Floyd Mayweather for a reason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoboRocket Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 6 hours ago, N4L said: This is completely fair commentary but the thing is... Wade Phillips runs the exact type of scheme Ramsey wants to play They aren't going to ask him to do what he doesn't want to do. They are going to have him play press man... a lot So your entire post becomes moot, and it's why this was a savvy move for the Rams. I have no idea who they will play on the other side, and I still think you can have their safties with speed, but their defense was horrible this year and now their defense should be a lot better No one was talking about how bad their offense was until they ran into the best defense in the NFC last week. Everyone was talking about how bad their OL was, and that Goff struggles while pressured. Not everyone will pressure him like the 49ers pressured him. What they are doing isn't sustainable but that's tomorrow's problems. Worry about that other stuff when it happens. Killer moves on their part but that still won't get them a home playoff game this year I bet NCR plays there in the rare "Base 3-4" set, and my money is on David Long playing on the perimeter the rest of the time. Best press corner in the 2019 NFL draft. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedyg Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Some clarity on how this trade went down 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4L Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 57 minutes ago, Speedyg said: Some clarity on how this trade went down Stopped reading after this part "Trading Peters to Baltimore created another $5.9 million in breathing room" FALSE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissooner49er Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 On 10/15/2019 at 6:54 PM, jrry32 said: Eh. The OL is a problem. But we made a move there (Corbett). And prior to the 49ers game, our O was still scoring points, even in losses. That game is an aberration imo. That is rich and ripe with wishful thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissooner49er Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 21 hours ago, ITS_RAMMY_PLAYBOI said: Bro you guys are gonna suck so bad bro. Ugly cocky niner fans just ugly. There were a few of you Rams fans trash-talking before the game, but now that our D put a beat down on your O, we are the cocky and ugly ones?! Hypocrisy at its finest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 hour ago, jrry32 said: I think you mean Manny Pacquiao. Sure, we didn't beat Floyd Mayweather, but he's Floyd Mayweather for a reason. Zab Judah. Very competent fighter, won a title once, but is mostly remembered for that one embarrassing loss that people remember... Don't ever play with matches... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 19 minutes ago, Chrissooner49er said: That is rich and ripe with wishful thinking. We'll return the favor in Santa Clara or wherever that blue jean stadium is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 hour ago, HoboRocket said: I bet NCR plays there in the rare "Base 3-4" set, and my money is on David Long playing on the perimeter the rest of the time. Best press corner in the 2019 NFL draft. NRC doesn't leave the slot. It'll be Troy Hill or David Long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 20 minutes ago, Chrissooner49er said: That is rich and ripe with wishful thinking. I don't think he's talking about the matchup between the 49ers and the rams moving forward. I think he's talking about the fact that the offense this season hasn't been a problem, and technically, he's right. They were averaging nearly 30 points a game prior to the 49ers game. The offense wasn't really having issues. I think he takes offense to people saying that offense isn't as good as it was just because of the 49ers game. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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