WindyCity Posted December 19, 2019 Author Share Posted December 19, 2019 52 minutes ago, RunningVaccs said: December Windy, I'd love for you and October Windy to get together... I think we've seen what Trubisky is going to be here in Chicago. Wouldn't surprise me if he ends up somewhere else and turns into one of those backups that plays to the max when needed, or even a decent starter, but I feel like 2020 is it for him even if they pick up his fifth year option which I expect. He has improved. Everyone on offense has. I have to adjust to what we are seeing now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Amazing how Pace team building was looking genius and then kind of completely fell apart this year. Combination of missing on best QBs in MT draft, TE FA miss and 2nd round miss, and complete 2019 O line melt down is making him look really bad. Torpedoed whole offense. I think Montgomery is a fine football player, but ignoring the TE position problem in 2019 was really huge. I think having a good blocking and receiving Y TE in 2019 might have made a 3 - 5 win difference. If you have good O line and TEs who the RB is doesn't matter nearly as much. On other hand having bad O line and bad TEs you get 2019 Bears. If you had 3 HOF WRs offense would still be bad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topwop1 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 55 minutes ago, dll2000 said: Amazing how Pace team building was looking genius and then kind of completely fell apart this year. Combination of missing on best QBs in MT draft, TE FA miss and 2nd round miss, and complete 2019 O line melt down is making him look really bad. Torpedoed whole offense. I think Montgomery is a fine football player, but ignoring the TE position problem in 2019 was really huge. I think having a good blocking and receiving Y TE in 2019 might have made a 3 - 5 win difference. If you have good O line and TEs who the RB is doesn't matter nearly as much. On other hand having bad O line and bad TEs you get 2019 Bears. If you had 3 HOF WRs offense would still be bad. Agreed. That's why I said you can put any QB back there, you name it, and they wouldn't be doing significantly better than Mitch has this season. Just look at Tom Brady this year struggling with no TE and an inconsistent OL. People like to blame the lack of weapons at WR but he still has Edelman, Sanu and Dorsett, plus Harry now. It's all about the o-line. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEAR FACE DOWN ARROW Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 2 hours ago, WindyCity said: He has improved. Everyone on offense has. I have to adjust to what we are seeing now. For sure, I guess my takeaway is whatever place any one of us wanted to put the blame, it doesn't really matter as the offense collectively crapped the bed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G08 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 This team needs to focus on developing the run game (re-invest in the OL and TEs) and I think we'll see an improvement in 2020. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nads786 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 35 minutes ago, G08 said: This team needs to focus on developing the run game (re-invest in the OL and TEs) and I think we'll see an improvement in 2020. This is by far the biggest focus for the team in the off-season. Even last year we were terrible at running the ball. We can compete in the playoffs next year if we can get a top 15 rush offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G08 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 4 hours ago, Nads786 said: This is by far the biggest focus for the team in the off-season. Even last year we were terrible at running the ball. We can compete in the playoffs next year if we can get a top 15 rush offense. I don't know what's going on with Whitehair and Daniels, but they need to get their **** together and the coaches need to set a course/direction and ******* stick to it. I'm sick of them getting jacked around mid-season. I thought we left that pee-wee crap back in the Fox era. We're stuck with Leno and Massie for a year or two more, so at minimum make sure you're locked in at LG and C. Draft a RG you really like in round 2 if he's there and you've got a young, stout middle of the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heinz D. Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 24 minutes ago, G08 said: We're stuck with Leno and Massie for a year or two more, so at minimum make sure you're locked in at LG and C. What? Why, exactly? They're the easiest to be replaced. LG and C are not much of a concern, comparatively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G08 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 26 minutes ago, Heinz D. said: What? Why, exactly? They're the easiest to be replaced. LG and C are not much of a concern, comparatively. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardown3231 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 28 minutes ago, G08 said: That, and good or great LT's are pretty hard to find Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted December 20, 2019 Author Share Posted December 20, 2019 13 hours ago, G08 said: Draft an OT in the 2nd round and let them all compete. It will be easier to replace Massie, but give the kid a shot at LT. We cannot roll out 2 mediocre OTs. Leno and Massie can both be cut in 2021. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G08 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 36 minutes ago, WindyCity said: Draft an OT in the 2nd round and let them all compete. It will be easier to replace Massie, but give the kid a shot at LT. We cannot roll out 2 mediocre OTs. Leno and Massie can both be cut in 2021. I've been thinking about this... can we draft an OT in round 2 and start him over Leno/Massie? Suppose politics or whatever plays a role (it will), can Pace justify drafting an OT in round 2 to be our swing tackle? Gives me concern that we'll see those two dudes playing prominent roles on the OL next season. Leno, Jesus. Dude needs to get stronger in his base but I just don't know if I see that happening. Tremendous liability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Things work out funny sometimes. Many, including me, had high expectations for 2019 and it turned out bad. Now conversely most will not have real high expectations for 2020. We could be surprised in a good way. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nads786 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 1 hour ago, dll2000 said: Things work out funny sometimes. Many, including me, had high expectations for 2019 and it turned out bad. Now conversely most will not have real high expectations for 2020. We could be surprised in a good way. We could be for sure. This team is not being blown out game after game. Our defense is a top 10 unit and could be top 5 next year. It really comes down to Mitch and the OL taking a step to mediocre next year and we could easily be 10-6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardown3231 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 3 hours ago, Nads786 said: We could be for sure. This team is not being blown out game after game. Our defense is a top 10 unit and could be top 5 next year. It really comes down to Mitch and the OL taking a step to mediocre next year and we could easily be 10-6. It also comes down to playing down to competition. Last year the Bears lost to Miami, NYG and Green Bay. This year they lost a home game to the Chargers and lost winnable road games to Philly and Oakland. Next year they're going to play some average to bad teams (on paper): Detroit twice, Rams, Giants/Skins. They'll also be playing the Jaguars, Falcons, and Panthers, 3 teams who might be completely starting over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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