SmittyBacall Posted November 5, 2019 Author Share Posted November 5, 2019 14 hours ago, Beck Bristow said: Raiders are way behind us in any realistic rebuild. Wha? They look good this year. Plus they have the Bears first round pick in 2020, which is looking more and more like a possible top 10 pick. I'm not even a fan of Gruden per se, but the future looks bright in Oakland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Not in Oakland but in Vegas, sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Bristow Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 On 11/5/2019 at 8:09 AM, SmittyBacall said: Wha? They look good this year. Plus they have the Bears first round pick in 2020, which is looking more and more like a possible top 10 pick. I'm not even a fan of Gruden per se, but the future looks bright in Oakland. I'm in Cozumel this week. My thoughts are likely less coherent than usual. Which is saying something. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Nix Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Beck Bristow said: I'm in Cozumel this week. My thoughts are likely less coherent than usual. Which is saying something. Be careful of the Cartel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmittyBacall Posted November 7, 2019 Author Share Posted November 7, 2019 I'm 80% certain we're going to let him walk for a comp pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Nix Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 1 hour ago, SmittyBacall said: I'm 80% certain we're going to let him walk for a comp pick. Yikes. Yup I’m almost positive he at leasts tests free agency unless we franchise him which will just make him mad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theJ Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 1 hour ago, SmittyBacall said: I'm 80% certain we're going to let him walk for a comp pick. Proof that the Bengals really can screw anything up. Also, i hate comp picks. With a burning passion. This team cares way too much about something, and builds their entire roster construction program, over a thing has a very small impact on the overall results of how good a team is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INbengalfan Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 2 hours ago, SmittyBacall said: I'm 80% certain we're going to let him walk for a comp pick. Tag and trade him then. He will be healthy by then. If he's mad about not being extended by then, who cares if he's mad that he got tagged? Or use the low end franchise tag (non-exclusive rights) Then let him sign elsewhere for the first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 If Sanu was worth a 2nd round pick to a contender, then AJ is worth a 1st. If we tag him and someone else signs him, we'd get 2 first round picks for him. Unless we agree to take less in a tag and trade deal, but those require creativity beyond what the Bengals possess. It seems hard to believe he's still out from a rolled ankle on the first day of camp. Maybe it's like Richie Braham's bone bruise. It seems like he isn't going to play this season. I'd guess the Bengals tag him, don't trade him, and don't reach a deal on an extension by next July. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Bristow Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 2 hours ago, theJ said: Proof that the Bengals really can screw anything up. Also, i hate comp picks. With a burning passion. This team cares way too much about something, and builds their entire roster construction program, over a thing has a very small impact on the overall results of how good a team is. Comp 0icks are great when they are for a solid player that you can replace for a lot less. Less so when it's for a guy that you could have gotten better for at the trade and is an all time team great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theJ Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 2 hours ago, sparky151 said: If Sanu was worth a 2nd round pick to a contender, then AJ is worth a 1st. If we tag him and someone else signs him, we'd get 2 first round picks for him. Unless we agree to take less in a tag and trade deal, but those require creativity beyond what the Bengals possess. It seems hard to believe he's still out from a rolled ankle on the first day of camp. Maybe it's like Richie Braham's bone bruise. It seems like he isn't going to play this season. I'd guess the Bengals tag him, don't trade him, and don't reach a deal on an extension by next July. He basically said today it won't heal properly unless he shuts it down for a month. Then someone asked if he's going to shut it down and he said no. So yeah he's not going to play lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theJ Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Beck Bristow said: Comp 0icks are great when they are for a solid player that you can replace for a lot less. Less so when it's for a guy that you could have gotten better for at the trade and is an all time team great. They should be treated as a nice reward when they happen to be awarded. Roster moves shouldn't be planned around them. It's idiotic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DUKE Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 I get AJ's reluctance to play, but he's lost my sympathy with his comments over the last few weeks if he does get tagged. Go ahead and tag him Bengals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVillain112 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Joe Goodberry tweeted (can't find it now, might have deleted it), that him and Ben Albright had a conversation during the Senior Bowl about Zac Taylor. Albright said he's a smart young head coach but that his first year is going to be really rough because he's not ready yet. It's showing in a big way year one. Having a subpar staff (OL and DC) doesn't help either. That said, having a #1 overall pick and the first pick of the 2nd and 3rd rounds should help this team amass some talent. We lost out on 'our guy' several times over the past few drafts but we're in a much better spot for a team that rarely makes any deals on draft day. This looks like bottom, but I'm hoping we stick with Zac for 2-3 more years at least to give him a fair chance... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theJ Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 36 minutes ago, TheVillain112 said: Joe Goodberry tweeted (can't find it now, might have deleted it), that him and Ben Albright had a conversation during the Senior Bowl about Zac Taylor. Albright said he's a smart young head coach but that his first year is going to be really rough because he's not ready yet. It's showing in a big way year one. Having a subpar staff (OL and DC) doesn't help either. That said, having a #1 overall pick and the first pick of the 2nd and 3rd rounds should help this team amass some talent. We lost out on 'our guy' several times over the past few drafts but we're in a much better spot for a team that rarely makes any deals on draft day. This looks like bottom, but I'm hoping we stick with Zac for 2-3 more years at least to give him a fair chance... i think he'll pick up the X's and O's, no problem. I'm more worried long term that he'll never learn how to pick staff. I get he has to back the guys he has now, so we're not likely to get a real transparent answer. But he has to can Turner this offseason. I'm a little more forgiving of the defensive staff, to some degree. But there's talent there, and they're all playing like garbage. So some change there is probably also required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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