Redskins LT Trent Williams placed on non-football illness list and out for season

[ramssuperbowl99]

3 hours ago, RaidersAreOne said:

Holy

 

A team proudly named red skins misdiagnosed a skin tumor.

I don't know how to process this level of ironic incompetence.

[TheKillerNacho]

waaaaat

[ET80]

4 hours ago, MikeT14 said:

Anyone wanna talk about the Nationals ?

No. No, no, no, NO.

We're done here. We are DONE. Why you do me like that?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(J/K, great series by the Nats. Stings as an Astros fan, but can't hate on your squad).

[ILoveTheVikings]

5 hours ago, bigbadbuff said:

whattttt

Holy hell.

[bzane]

Ummm, forgive my stupidity- I was born this way- but Trent Williams announces that Trent Williams has, and has had, cancer? 

Not a doctor.

And, if indeed the player did have/does have cancer, why all the lesser ailments claimed over the last several weeks? 

Could Trent Willams be a) mistaken, or b) fabricating?

 

[ILoveTheVikings]

5 minutes ago, bzane said:

Ummm, forgive my stupidity- I was born this way- but Trent Williams announces that Trent Williams has, and has had, cancer? 

Not a doctor.

And, if indeed the player did have/does have cancer, why all the lesser ailments claimed over the last several weeks? 

Could Trent Willams be a) mistaken, or b) fabricating?

 

He's had surgery for it.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2860721-redskins-trent-williams-reveals-cancer-diagnosis-i-almost-lost-my-life

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Williams said he underwent three surgeries following the diagnosis, most recently in June.

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"I was told it was something minor, so I didn't really question it," Williams said of the team's initial assessment. He added, "The diagnosis that they gave me in the beginning, they kind of underestimated it."

According to Kareem Copeland of the Washington Post, Williams "was diagnosed with Dermatofibrosarcoma Protuberans (DFSP), a rare form of cancer. Doctors said it was weeks from moving to his brain when they removed the growth."

 

[sammymvpknight]

The cancer was incredibly rare. It could have been appropriately misdiagnosed because of just how uncommon it is to have a subcutaneous lesion that is malignant. I know nothing about the case, but I’m going to reserve judgement on this one. 

[Ty21]

Well cancer is a good reason to fail a physical 

[kramxel]

This whole deal just gets way more messed up, the more you dig deeper....

I'll just say it's a weird stance to take by the Redskins if they knew the whole situation from the begining...

We have been completely in the dark about the subject, and now it seems clear why wasn't everyone involved really talking about the situation, giving it's a serious matter, and it's the player's prerogative tho divulge, or not, the information.... but if you actually look back at what has been leaked and done by the Redskins, this just gets weirder and weirder.

Really hard to understand the Redskins' thought process.

 

[nagahide13]

6 hours ago, sammymvpknight said:

The cancer was incredibly rare. It could have been appropriately misdiagnosed because of just how uncommon it is to have a subcutaneous lesion that is malignant. I know nothing about the case, but I’m going to reserve judgement on this one. 

For what it's worth, we know for a fact that the Redskins doctors cleared him to play. If he's got a growth on his head then team doctors should likely be referring him to specialists. Trent doesn't seem to care a ton about the misdiagnosis itself... He seems to care more that the entire organization basically told him to suck it up when his life was potentially on the line. His beef seems to be that the organization doesn't care about him as a human being.

He was afraid for his life, the organization told him to suck an egg, he turned out to be right.

 

 

[sammymvpknight]

3 hours ago, nagahide13 said:

For what it's worth, we know for a fact that the Redskins doctors cleared him to play. If he's got a growth on his head then team doctors should likely be referring him to specialists. Trent doesn't seem to care a ton about the misdiagnosis itself... He seems to care more that the entire organization basically told him to suck it up when his life was potentially on the line. His beef seems to be that the organization doesn't care about him as a human being.

He was afraid for his life, the organization told him to suck an egg, he turned out to be right.

 

 

Malpractice doesn't typically occur from poor medical decisions. Mistakes get made...believe it or not...a physician's job is very difficult. It's a game of probabilities. 99.99% of the time that subcutaneous lesion on your patient's forehead is lipoma/sebaceous cyst or something else benign. If it doesn't hurt or get in the way of anything you do nothing about it. Very very very rarely it's a malignant lesion. 

Where mistakes get made are in communication and follow-up. He apparently felt like the Redskins medical staff should have diagnosed it sooner, and perhaps they had less than ideal communication and follow-up. The idea that it was "a week away from getting to the brain'...that's incredibly dramatic. Nobody can make that kind of statement with any level of confidence. 

[TheKillerNacho]

1 hour ago, sammymvpknight said:

Malpractice doesn't typically occur from poor medical decisions. Mistakes get made...believe it or not...a physician's job is very difficult. It's a game of probabilities. 99.99% of the time that subcutaneous lesion on your patient's forehead is lipoma/sebaceous cyst or something else benign. If it doesn't hurt or get in the way of anything you do nothing about it. Very very very rarely it's a malignant lesion. 

Where mistakes get made are in communication and follow-up. He apparently felt like the Redskins medical staff should have diagnosed it sooner, and perhaps they had less than ideal communication and follow-up. The idea that it was "a week away from getting to the brain'...that's incredibly dramatic. Nobody can make that kind of statement with any level of confidence. 

In fairness, you got the quote wrong:

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According to Kareem Copeland of the Washington Post, Williams "was diagnosed with Dermatofibrosarcoma Protuberans (DFSP), a rare form of cancer. Doctors said it was weeks from moving to his brain when they removed the growth."

 

[sammymvpknight]

2 minutes ago, TheKillerNacho said:

In fairness, you got the quote wrong:

 

The diagnosis is incredibly rare...like 1:1,000,000, and it usually doesn't spread (like a 2% chance of metastasis).

It must have been locally invasive...meaning that it began to eat it's way through his skull. If that happens, I'm pretty sure that we hear about this story before now...a reconstructive surgery is often required for something like that. If it was a systemic disease (that 2% of 1,000,000), he'd likely have been on chemo or radiation. It sounds like they just excised the lesion...pointing away from catastrophic invasive disease or systemic disease...and pointing away from him only having a few weeks before brain metastasis. 

So something doesn't quite add up here.

[nagahide13]

2 hours ago, sammymvpknight said:

Malpractice doesn't typically occur from poor medical decisions. Mistakes get made...believe it or not...a physician's job is very difficult. It's a game of probabilities. 99.99% of the time that subcutaneous lesion on your patient's forehead is lipoma/sebaceous cyst or something else benign. If it doesn't hurt or get in the way of anything you do nothing about it. Very very very rarely it's a malignant lesion. 

Where mistakes get made are in communication and follow-up. He apparently felt like the Redskins medical staff should have diagnosed it sooner, and perhaps they had less than ideal communication and follow-up. The idea that it was "a week away from getting to the brain'...that's incredibly dramatic. Nobody can make that kind of statement with any level of confidence. 

What I'm attempting to get across here is that Trent is upset with the front office for how his medical situation played out. This isn't about being misdiagnosed by the team's doctors. This is about how the team acted when he was seeking outside opinions. The initial misdiagnosis was a catalyst. The franchise does not have his personal best interest in mind. They do not care about Trent Williams the man.

 

Edited November 1, 2019 by nagahide13

[sammymvpknight]

1 hour ago, nagahide13 said:

What I'm attempting to get across here is that Trent is upset with the front office for how his medical situation played out. This isn't about being misdiagnosed by the team's doctors. This is about how the team acted when he was seeking outside opinions. The initial misdiagnosis was a catalyst. The franchise does not have his personal best interest in mind. They do not care about Trent Williams the man.

 

I think that we agree. He's not happy with the follow-up and communication. And clearly...trying to all of a sudden trade a player with a head tumor history and HEAD PAIN right before the trade deadline? That's dirty.