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15 hours ago, sparky151 said:

That's some serious loser talk right there. There are only 32 NFL teams and a lot more coaches and GM candidates than that. It was time to move on from Marvin and we tried hiring a boy wonder. Instead of turning things around, he flopped massively. The proper thing to do would be to admit with the benefit of hindsight, Zac Taylor wasn't ready to be an NFL head coach and find someone who is qualified. Jim Caldwell or Rex Ryan are former coaches who want back in and have had success in the past. Either of them would be a considerable upgrade from Taylor and they have the credibility to hire good assistants.

You're so black and white sparky. Sometimes there’s other things at play. Give Zac 1 more year. Things don’t often turn around immediately with an entirely new coaching staff. It takes some time. Now if we don’t see progress this year, then we can start talking about canning people and starting over. It’s the same thing with draft prospects. Sometimes it takes them a year or two, even three to settle in. 

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12 minutes ago, sparky151 said:

That's the attitude that gave Ogbuehi chance after chance, even sending Whitworth on his way. We changed coaches after the 2018 season but kept the roster largely intact. Please tell us one significant thing that Taylor does better than Marvin. 

I think he manages the clock much better. 

The players seem to like him and his system better too. 

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1 hour ago, SmittyBacall said:

Yeah, Tobin should have known better about Jonah Williams requiring season-ending surgery, Cordy Glenn's lingering concussion symptoms, and Clint Boling's retirement. What an idiot.

To be fair, he DID know about Boling.  But the plan to address it revolved around the other 2... Williams playing LT and Glenn sliding to LG.  The news wasn't public about Boling, but they knew in late December 2018 when he was held out of there last game or two

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25 minutes ago, sparky151 said:

That's the attitude that gave Ogbuehi chance after chance, even sending Whitworth on his way. We changed coaches after the 2018 season but kept the roster largely intact. Please tell us one significant thing that Taylor does better than Marvin. 

Best players play, regardless of draft status and salary.

They continued to play hard right through the end of the season

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2 hours ago, sparky151 said:

That's the attitude that gave Ogbuehi chance after chance, even sending Whitworth on his way. We changed coaches after the 2018 season but kept the roster largely intact. Please tell us one significant thing that Taylor does better than Marvin. 

I think Zac does a lot of things better than Marv. He’s willing to admit he’s wrong #1 and doesn’t keep doing things his way. In hindsight it’s easy to say they shouldn’t have given Ogbeuhi a starting spot before seeing him play but isn’t that what we are doing with Jonah Williams? If Jonah struggles this year do we find his replacement next year?

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On 1/25/2020 at 9:31 PM, THE DUKE said:

He's just saying that everyone on staff and in the front office would have been fired already if given your druthers. Good luck trying to find competent replacements with that kind of reputation after one year.

Lol. It’s literally the Browns mantra. Look who they got as their Coach and GM. 2 inexperienced guys because no respectable coach or GM would seriously consider Cleveland. 

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40 minutes ago, Carson4MVP said:

Lol. It’s literally the Browns mantra. Look who they got as their Coach and GM. 2 inexperienced guys because no respectable coach or GM would seriously consider Cleveland. 

I feel like the last 4 weeks have been groundhog day, repeating this same argument over and over again lol.  

 

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On 1/26/2020 at 4:54 PM, theJ said:

I think he manages the clock much better. 

The players seem to like him and his system better too. 

This is fair. Marvin was poor at clock management, using timeouts and challenging official's calls.

 

Taylor is better at those things. Who knows if the players really like Taylor more than most teams do their coaches. Marvin was stale by the end. It's hard to say Taylor has a system. 

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