THE DUKE Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 I think Burrow's arm strength is comparable to Dalton's now, which is better than it was when Dalton was coming out of college. Arm strength is something that can be increased some upon entering the NFL, as long as you have at least a solid baseline of arm strength to start with, which I think Burrow has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Yeah, Brees and Brady have stronger arms now than when they entered the NFL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Bristow Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Is Eli manning coming back to start a good thing? I know he won't be interested in tanking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theJ Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Beck Bristow said: Is Eli manning coming back to start a good thing? I know he won't be interested in tanking. Oh it's definitely a good thing. Daniel Jones was a walking turnover. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Nix Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 13 hours ago, theJ said: Oh it's definitely a good thing. Daniel Jones was a walking turnover. And Eli isn’t? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theJ Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 31 minutes ago, johndeere1707 said: And Eli isn’t? Eli Manning - 234 games played 241 INT's, 56 fumbles lost1.3 turnovers/game Daniel Jones - 11 games played 11 INT's, 10 fumbles lost1.9 turnovers/game If you want to only look at Eli's last 5 years (2014-2018): 79 games played 68 INT's, 21 fumbles lost1.1 turnovers/game So, yes he is, but not to the degree that Jones is. The difference in that almost 1 turnover/game is not a trivial thing. It's likely somewhere between 3-10 points, depending on where the turnover occurs and who the opponent is. Also, Eli's other metrics are better too. NY/A, Y/A, sack%, Y/C, etc. He's a better QB still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmittyBacall Posted December 6, 2019 Author Share Posted December 6, 2019 51 minutes ago, johndeere1707 said: And Eli isn’t? Jones has to fumble once a game his rookie year. It's in his contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Bristow Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Hopefully Eli is well rested and finishes strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmittyBacall Posted December 8, 2019 Author Share Posted December 8, 2019 We better not mess this up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tetsujin Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Congrats on the QB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Nix Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 One step closer to Burrow today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 What if Burrow pulls an Eli/Elway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmittyBacall Posted December 10, 2019 Author Share Posted December 10, 2019 15 minutes ago, PapaShogun said: What if Burrow pulls an Eli/Elway? He's an Ohio boy. I think we're okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theJ Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 44 minutes ago, PapaShogun said: What if Burrow pulls an Eli/Elway? Then Mike Brown will let him rot for years on an reserved/inactive list, and he'll maybe never play football. Someday people will learn not to hold out on Mike Brown. The most stubborn man alive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theJ Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 I don't believe he'd do that anyway. And in any case, the Bengals aren't as bad as their record indicates. They've played a lot of close games, have a brutal schedule (toughest in the NFL if i'm looking at the right column) and are perhaps lucky to some extent they don't have 4-5 wins. The QB that leads this offense next year will have AJ Green, Tyler Boyd, John Ross, Auden Tate, and Joe Mixon as weapons around him. Several coaches who have been QB coaches in previous lives, and a city that won't toss him out after 8 games if he's not Mahomes. I mean, it took about 3-4 years before some people were sick of Andy Dalton, and probably 6-7 years for the entirety of the fan base to turn against him. I actually think this is a pretty good landing spot for Burrow, all things considered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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