Danger Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 What schools routinely have players who are drafted at whatever position and each time they don't live up to expectations (even if they aren't super high)? I was just looking at the Kevin White injury today and he's one of many West Virginia Wide Receivers in recent years who's not been able to play up to the level anticipated upon drafting him. 2013 1(8) - Tavon Austin 3(92) - Stedman Bailey 2015 1(7) - Kevin White 2017 5(166) - Shelton Gibson *I know the last one sounds strange but ask any Eagles fan here, it's embarrassing. What are some other schools where players are busting at a particular position a lot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamcanadian Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 5 hours ago, Danger said: What schools routinely have players who are drafted at whatever position and each time they don't live up to expectations (even if they aren't super high)? I was just looking at the Kevin White injury today and he's one of many West Virginia Wide Receivers in recent years who's not been able to play up to the level anticipated upon drafting him. 2013 1(8) - Tavon Austin 3(92) - Stedman Bailey 2015 1(7) - Kevin White 2017 5(166) - Shelton Gibson *I know the last one sounds strange but ask any Eagles fan here, it's embarrassing. What are some other schools where players are busting at a particular position a lot? It isn't the school that is important. It is the HC's that you have to follow. Every spring, college HC's decide where they will place their superior athletes, OL vs DL, TE's vs LBers, RB and WR's VS DB's etc. etc. Every college HC has tendencies as to where he puts his better athletes and you always have to be suspicious of prospects who come from a HC who traditionally puts his poorer athletes at certain positions. Pro scouts and GM's keep complete records on college HC's tendencies for where they put their better athletes. Only poorly run pro teams would ignore this. Remember, it is not the school, it's the HC. If a school hires a new HC, past production has little meaning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalhounLambeau Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Most of this stuff is so circumstantial and when you combine that with small sample sizes, etc, it all means nothing. Outside of school stigma's involving North Carolina (off-field and discipline issues with Butch Davis players) and Clemson (notorious for soft players and spoiling top players for a time) over the last 15 years there's really nothing out there that is definitive and real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riceman80 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Hard to say...closest i can give is the traditional "never draft a Jeff Tedford QB" or Air Raid TEs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroncoSojia Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Just look at USC's skill position players and QBs over the last 13 years.... @Crickett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 12 hours ago, riceman80 said: Hard to say...closest i can give is the traditional "never draft a Jeff Tedford QB" or Air Raid TEs Aaron Rodgers was a Tedford quarterback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted September 13, 2017 Author Share Posted September 13, 2017 22 minutes ago, BroncoSojia said: Just look at USC's skill position players and QBs over the last 13 years.... @Crickett QB:2005 (Round 7): Matt Cassel 2006 (Round 1, 10th overall): Matt Leinart 2008 (Round 5): John David Booty 2009 (Round 1, 5th overall): Mark Sanchez 2013 (Round 4): Matt Barkley 2016 (Round 3): Cody Kessler RB: 2006 (Round 1, 2nd overall): Reggie Bush 2006 (Round 2): LenDale White 2008 (Round 7): Chauncey Washington 2010 (Round 4): Joe McKnight 2011 (Round 6): Allen Bradford 2015 (Round 4): Javorious Allen WR: 2004 (Round 2): Keary Colbert 2005 (Round 1, 10th overall): Mike Williams 2007 (Round 2): Dwayne Jarrett2007 (Round 2): Steve Smith 2009 (Round 3): Patrick Turner 2010 (Round 4): Damian Williams 2011 (Round 6): Ronald Johnson 2011 (Round 7): David Ausberry 2013 (Round 2): Robert Woods 2014 (Round 2): Marqise Lee 2015 (Round 1, 20th overall): Nelson Agholor 2017 (Round 2): Juju Smith-Schuster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texansfan713 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Not sure about other teams but for Houston it's cb. Hopefully William Jackson and Howard Wilson breaks that trend. Stanford Routt and DJ Hayden were both taken high in the draft and didn't live up to their draft pick status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riceman80 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 11 hours ago, Forge said: Aaron Rodgers was a Tedford quarterback Everyone always uses that as an argument...know who else was? Kyle Boller, Joey Harrington, David Carr, Trent Dilfer, Billy Volek, AJ Feeley, Akili Smith...and no one in the last 10 years pretty sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 22 minutes ago, riceman80 said: Everyone always uses that as an argument...know who else was? Kyle Boller, Joey Harrington, David Carr, Trent Dilfer, Billy Volek, AJ Feeley, Akili Smith...and no one in the last 10 years pretty sure Tedford has not really coached college football since 2012 till now recently with Fresno State, started this year. Dilfer is not a terrible QB, sure not the best but not awful, same with Joey Harrington. Harrington had no support on that OL and got really beat up physically early, could of had a different career with a different franchise. So ultimately Tedford I would not say has an awful QB history. Want to say awful QB history how about Mike Leach and his entire coaching tree of Art Briles, Sonny Dykes, Kliff Kingsbury, Greg McMackin, Ruffin McNeill, Dana Hologorsen and Lincoln Riley. Look at those QBs, maybe Mahomes could turn it around, or Webb or Goff or Mayfield. But as of right now it is absolute **** currently. Another one would be Wisconsin running backs, but that is probably currently being changed with James White and Melvin Gordon most likely. As for USC, just so happen to not include Carson Palmer of course... But they have had some busts at the skill positions that is for sure, but defensively they are very sound and have a lot of quite successful players at least. Loved watching the Florida teams coached by Steve Spurrier, but in general Florida has really never had a real successful pro QB ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSURacerDT55 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 LSU - DL Penn State - Running Backs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalhounLambeau Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 15 hours ago, riceman80 said: Everyone always uses that as an argument...know who else was? Kyle Boller, Joey Harrington, David Carr, Trent Dilfer, Billy Volek, AJ Feeley, Akili Smith...and no one in the last 10 years pretty sure You have to put things in context, who has a better group of QBs on their resume? They don't grow on trees and nobody is a QB whisperer so there are going to be a lot of duds and career backups because there are by nature a lot of duds and career backups. Most coaches would kill to have a lineup like that with Aaron Rodgers headlining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 5 hours ago, MSURacerDT55 said: LSU - DL Penn State - Running Backs Franco Harris, Curt Warner, Larry Johnson were good pros, not to mention soon to be Saquon Barkley... Blair Thomas, Curtis Enis, K-Jana Carter were all huge busts, some lower ended busts with Tony Hunt. Still half in half there, there are worse groups out there at the RB spot. As for LSU, what are you talking about? There are a lot of very good pros from that DL group. Danielle Hunter Bennie Logan Michael Brockers Drake Nevis Tyson Jackson Ricky Jean-Francois Glen Dorsey Jarvis Green Melvin Oliver Ego Ferguson Al Woods Chase Pittman Kyle Williams Marcus Spears Marquise Hill Anthony McFarland Sure the big busts were on the same team really with Mingo and Montgomery. Glen Dorsey maybe but he is still an effective pro when healthy and really has not been used right at the next level either. But overall to call LSU DLs usually busts, that is bull... Barkevious Mingo Sam Montgomery Kenny Mixon Chuck Wiley Chad Lavalais Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSURacerDT55 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Yawn, k bro.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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