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Danger    96

What schools routinely have players who are drafted at whatever position and each time they don't live up to expectations (even if they aren't super high)?

I was just looking at the Kevin White injury today and he's one of many West Virginia Wide Receivers in recent years who's not been able to play up to the level anticipated upon drafting him.

 

2013
1(8) - Tavon Austin
3(92) - Stedman Bailey

2015
1(7) - Kevin White

2017
5(166) - Shelton Gibson

*I know the last one sounds strange but ask any Eagles fan here, it's embarrassing.

 

What are some other schools where players are busting at a particular position a lot?

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Iamcanadian    15
5 hours ago, Danger said:

What schools routinely have players who are drafted at whatever position and each time they don't live up to expectations (even if they aren't super high)?

I was just looking at the Kevin White injury today and he's one of many West Virginia Wide Receivers in recent years who's not been able to play up to the level anticipated upon drafting him.

 

2013
1(8) - Tavon Austin
3(92) - Stedman Bailey

2015
1(7) - Kevin White

2017
5(166) - Shelton Gibson

*I know the last one sounds strange but ask any Eagles fan here, it's embarrassing.

 

What are some other schools where players are busting at a particular position a lot?

It isn't the school that is important. It is the HC's that you have to follow. Every spring, college HC's decide where they will place their superior athletes, OL vs DL, TE's vs LBers, RB and WR's VS DB's etc. etc. Every college HC has tendencies as to where he puts his better athletes and you always have to be suspicious of prospects who come from a HC who traditionally puts his poorer athletes at certain positions. Pro scouts and GM's keep complete records on college HC's tendencies for where they put their better athletes. Only poorly run pro teams would ignore this.

Remember, it is not the school, it's the HC. If a school hires a new HC, past production has little meaning.

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Most of this stuff is so circumstantial and when you combine that with small sample sizes, etc, it all means nothing. Outside of school stigma's involving North Carolina (off-field and discipline issues with Butch Davis players) and Clemson (notorious for soft players and spoiling top players for a time) over the last 15 years there's really nothing out there that is definitive and real.

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riceman80    18

Hard to say...closest i can give is the traditional "never draft a Jeff Tedford QB" or Air Raid TEs

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Forge    236
12 hours ago, riceman80 said:

Hard to say...closest i can give is the traditional "never draft a Jeff Tedford QB" or Air Raid TEs

Aaron Rodgers was a Tedford quarterback

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Danger    96
22 minutes ago, BroncoSojia said:

Just look at USC's skill position players and QBs over the last 13 years.... @Crickett

QB:
2005 (Round 7): Matt Cassel
2006 (Round 1, 10th overall): Matt Leinart
2008 (Round 5): John David Booty
2009 (Round 1, 5th overall): Mark Sanchez
2013 (Round 4): Matt Barkley
2016 (Round 3): Cody Kessler


RB:
2006 (Round 1, 2nd overall): Reggie Bush
2006 (Round 2): LenDale White
2008 (Round 7): Chauncey Washington
2010 (Round 4): Joe McKnight
2011 (Round 6): Allen Bradford
2015 (Round 4): Javorious Allen


WR:
2004 (Round 2): Keary Colbert
2005 (Round 1, 10th overall): Mike Williams
2007 (Round 2): Dwayne Jarrett
2007 (Round 2): Steve Smith
2009 (Round 3): Patrick Turner
2010 (Round 4): Damian Williams
2011 (Round 6): Ronald Johnson
2011 (Round 7): David Ausberry
2013 (Round 2): Robert Woods
2014 (Round 2): Marqise Lee
2015 (Round 1, 20th overall): Nelson Agholor
2017 (Round 2): Juju Smith-Schuster

 

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Texansfan713    25

Not sure about other teams but for Houston it's cb. Hopefully William Jackson and Howard Wilson breaks that trend.

 

Stanford Routt and DJ Hayden were both taken high in the draft and didn't live up to their draft pick status.

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riceman80    18
11 hours ago, Forge said:

Aaron Rodgers was a Tedford quarterback

Everyone always uses that as an argument...know who else was? Kyle Boller, Joey Harrington, David Carr, Trent Dilfer, Billy Volek, AJ Feeley, Akili Smith...and no one in the last 10 years pretty sure

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Ozzy    8
22 minutes ago, riceman80 said:

Everyone always uses that as an argument...know who else was? Kyle Boller, Joey Harrington, David Carr, Trent Dilfer, Billy Volek, AJ Feeley, Akili Smith...and no one in the last 10 years pretty sure

Tedford has not really coached college football since 2012 till now recently with Fresno State, started this year.  Dilfer is not a terrible QB, sure not the best but not awful, same with Joey Harrington.  Harrington had no support on that OL and got really beat up physically early, could of had a different career with a different franchise.  So ultimately Tedford I would not say has an awful QB history.

 

Want to say awful QB history how about Mike Leach and his entire coaching tree of Art Briles, Sonny Dykes, Kliff Kingsbury, Greg McMackin, Ruffin McNeill, Dana Hologorsen and Lincoln Riley.  Look at those QBs, maybe Mahomes could turn it around, or Webb or Goff or Mayfield.  But as of right now it is absolute **** currently.  

 

Another one would be Wisconsin running backs, but that is probably currently being changed with James White and Melvin Gordon most likely.  

 

 

As for USC, just so happen to not include Carson Palmer of course...  But they have had some busts at the skill positions that is for sure, but defensively they are very sound and have a lot of quite successful players at least.  

 

 

Loved watching the Florida teams coached by Steve Spurrier, but in general Florida has really never had a real successful pro QB ever.  

 

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15 hours ago, riceman80 said:

Everyone always uses that as an argument...know who else was? Kyle Boller, Joey Harrington, David Carr, Trent Dilfer, Billy Volek, AJ Feeley, Akili Smith...and no one in the last 10 years pretty sure

You have to put things in context, who has a better group of QBs on their resume? They don't grow on trees and nobody is a QB whisperer so there are going to be a lot of duds and career backups because there are by nature a lot of duds and career backups. Most coaches would kill to have a lineup like that with Aaron Rodgers headlining.

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Ozzy    8
5 hours ago, MSURacerDT55 said:

 

LSU - DL

Penn State - Running Backs

Franco Harris, Curt Warner, Larry Johnson were good pros, not to mention soon to be Saquon Barkley...  Blair Thomas, Curtis Enis, K-Jana Carter were all huge busts, some lower ended busts with Tony Hunt.  Still half in half there, there are worse groups out there at the RB spot.  

 

 

 

As for LSU, what are you talking about?  There are a lot of very good pros from that DL group.  

 

Danielle Hunter

Bennie Logan

Michael Brockers

Drake Nevis

Tyson Jackson

Ricky Jean-Francois

Glen Dorsey

Jarvis Green

Melvin Oliver

Ego Ferguson

Al Woods

Chase Pittman

Kyle Williams

Marcus Spears

Marquise Hill

Anthony McFarland

 

 

Sure the big busts were on the same team really with Mingo and Montgomery.  Glen Dorsey maybe but he is still an effective pro when healthy and really has not been used right at the next level either.  But overall to call LSU DLs usually busts, that is bull...   

 

Barkevious Mingo

Sam Montgomery

Kenny Mixon

Chuck Wiley

Chad Lavalais

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