WindyCity Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 12 hours ago, abstract_thought said: What does Mitch do well enough that Nagy could build an offense around? The bad read-inaccurate pass offense. When their is a deep ball have another WR run a route 5 yards over or under Robinson's deep route so he is where the ball lands. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abstract_thought Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 13 minutes ago, WindyCity said: The bad read-inaccurate pass offense. When their is a deep ball have another WR run a route 5 yards over or under Robinson's deep route so he is where the ball lands. Line up, run 3 Hail Marys, and pray for luck: the offense that’ll revolutionize football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEAR FACE DOWN ARROW Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 I think they're just trying to establish certain looks on tape, so that when an opposing DC preps for the Bears, he'll be saying to himself "Lets see, if Robinson's open, and Wims is open, and Burton's open, then they shall throw HERE" (jabs at paper indicating a triple covered Bilal Nichols, eligble WR) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topwop1 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 I'm not blaming one particular person for the offense's struggles this year because there is a lot of blame to go around BUT... My problem right now mainly lies with Nagy. He is costing the team wins by trying to keep pushing with the status quo and with what hasn't been working. If Mitch is holding the O back then put Daniel in. If he truly doesn't believe Mitch is the problem then he needs to figure it out and fix whatever is ailing the offense. He was brought in to improve the offense and it makes absolutely no sense to see a regression this bad after a somewhat promising first year. As the leader of not only the offense but the team he needs to do better job at scheming and preparing the offense regardless of whether or not Mitch is the right QB for this team. Figure it out man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G08 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Rich Eisen shares what 'someone in the know' thinks is happening with Trubisky 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Changes I make -I formation becomes the base look. -Shaheen is benched or cut and Raymond is brought up. -Holtz is legit. In the I formation he is playing FB with Braunecker at TE. When we are in single back he is starting at TE. Only dude giving an effort as a blocker. -Switch Daniels and Whitehair back. -Tarik Cohen is benched other than a few specific packages and 3rd and long he can be in the backfield half the time. -Javon Wims gets more run. Handful of passes in the game are completed to a 6'4" target and not a 5'6' or 5'8" target. -Montgomery can rest when he is dead. -Patterson plays special teams. If you do those things I think you become functional. In the offseason you totally redo the TE room. Upgrade the OL. Get a serious QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBHalas Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 31 minutes ago, WindyCity said: Changes I make -I formation becomes the base look. -Shaheen is benched or cut and Raymond is brought up. -Holtz is legit. In the I formation he is playing FB with Braunecker at TE. When we are in single back he is starting at TE. Only dude giving an effort as a blocker. -Switch Daniels and Whitehair back. -Tarik Cohen is benched other than a few specific packages and 3rd and long he can be in the backfield half the time. -Javon Wims gets more run. Handful of passes in the game are completed to a 6'4" target and not a 5'6' or 5'8" target. -Montgomery can rest when he is dead. -Patterson plays special teams. If you do those things I think you become functional. In the offseason you totally redo the TE room. Upgrade the OL. Get a serious QB. The only thing I would add is cut Davis and bring up Nall. Let him play special teams and give Montgomery a rest when needed or dead lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxguy7 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 11 minutes ago, GBHalas said: The only thing I would add is cut Davis and bring up Nall. Let him play special teams and give Montgomery a rest when needed or dead lol. The truly Chicago move would be to find out if Senorise Perry is on a squad or not. Or Harvey Unga. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Then in 2020 -Grab an Alex Smith type veteran -Redo the TE position from the ground up -Build the OL See what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G08 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 I like where your head is at, @WindyCity, but what annoys me about Nagy is he doesn't seem to know how (or want to?) build off plays with 20, 21, 22 personnel. Watch any of the 2015 Chiefs games after week 6 (just find their clips on YouTube) and you'll see a ton of those formations utilized and plays building off plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 1 minute ago, G08 said: I like where your head is at, @WindyCity, but what annoys me about Nagy is he doesn't seem to know how (or want to?) build off plays with 20, 21, 22 personnel. Watch any of the 2015 Chiefs games after week 6 (just find their clips on YouTube) and you'll see a ton of those formations utilized and plays building off plays. They are being killed through forcing bad personnel on the field. Shaheen, Burton, Cohen are offering nothing to the offense. Holtz is a damn good blocker, why does Shaheen ever play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G08 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Just now, WindyCity said: They are being killed through forcing bad personnel on the field. Shaheen, Burton, Cohen are offering nothing to the offense. Holtz is a damn good blocker, why does Shaheen ever play? I have no idea... Shaheen is ******* terrible. Watched him on the all 22 against the Eagles... you could have done a better job on the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 55 minutes ago, G08 said: I have no idea... Shaheen is ******* terrible. Watched him on the all 22 against the Eagles... you could have done a better job on the field. Nagy needs to stop hamstringing the offense playing guys Pace drafted or paid who are bad. Cohen is having a garbage season, but he is still a huge part of the game plan. Burton looks like a corpse on the field. Patterson is a giant tip off to the defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nads786 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 2 hours ago, G08 said: Rich Eisen shares what 'someone in the know' thinks is happening with Trubisky I just have such a hard time believing this. Watch the Detroit game last year, how was that gimmicky? Mitch was on point right from the start. I do think the league has caught on to tenancies that Nagy has, but that happens to every coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEAR FACE DOWN ARROW Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 I do think the Bears offensive scheme was figured out, solved and that's what you saw in the GB game. That was such a curb stomp that it's busted Mitch's head. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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