topwop1 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, WindyCity said: You are only missing one thing from the above post. LOL well Pace has already started to dig his own grave so let's see if he has the cojones to get himself out of this mess. Will be very interesting to see how things play out over the next few months. My guess is that Bears end up finishing off 2019 respectably enough while falling short of the playoffs and they chalk it up as a down year/sophomore slump type of situation for the coaching staff, players, etc. and they sell everyone on the idea that next year will be much improved. Barring an Emery/Trestman type of collapse the rest of this season I still think Pace gets at least 1 more year with Nagy in 2020 to right the ship. Whether or not that is the right call remains to be seen but I certainly understand the rationale behind wanting to fire him right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abstract_thought Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 20 minutes ago, WindyCity said: They should cut Shaheen and bring up Raymond or Horsted. He is literally hurting them on the field. Use the remaining games to get a look at any player with even the slightest chance at helping your team in the future. The list of players the Bears need to replace is growing and their resources are limited. They’re going to need to find some diamonds in the rough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardown3231 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Jahri Evans, Greg Zuerlein, Tyreek Hill and Malcolm Butler all have good or had good careers. Does it matter what round they went in? All of them except Zuerlein would've went round 1 or 2 in a redraft 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topwop1 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, beardown3231 said: Jahri Evans, Greg Zuerlein, Tyreek Hill and Malcolm Butler all have good or had good careers. Does it matter what round they went in? All of them except Zuerlein would've went round 1 or 2 in a redraft In a re-draft sure but aren't you one to not talk about what if's and hypotheticals? In a re-draft we would take Pat Mahomes over Mitch. Sorry that I worded it wrong or sounds like I'm backpedaling. I'm not saying all Div 2 players are worth a crap but you just proved the point that they could have probably drafted Shaheen in 4th round or later and not wasted a high draft resource on him when it is known that the odds of hitting on a player from those div 2 schools is much lower. You named the exceptions and who were all great value picks for where they were taken. Shaheen was a terrible pick and poor value from the get go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxguy7 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 (edited) With Miami in full rebuild mode, I wonder if you could trade a 2021 4th or 5th for Mike Gesicki. Hell, include Shaheen in the deal. Edited November 7, 2019 by chisoxguy7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxguy7 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 With Mark Andrews seemingly emerging, and the Ravens having committed a decent salary to Nick Boyle, Hayden Hurst is another player I might make a phone call on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blkwdw13 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 6 hours ago, chisoxguy7 said: With Miami in full rebuild mode, I wonder if you could trade a 2021 4th or 5th for Mike Gesicki. Hell, include Shaheen in the deal. 6 hours ago, chisoxguy7 said: With Mark Andrews seemingly emerging, and the Ravens having committed a decent salary to Nick Boyle, Hayden Hurst is another player I might make a phone call on. I'm not trading any picks going forward, the Bears need those. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxguy7 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Since Nagy seems to love reclamation projects, (eg Sowell moving to TE, there was another one this offseason I am forgetting), the question becomes... can Shaheen play anywhere? O Line? D Line? Long snapper? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardown3231 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, chisoxguy7 said: Since Nagy seems to love reclamation projects, (eg Sowell moving to TE, there was another one this offseason I am forgetting), the question becomes... can Shaheen play anywhere? O Line? D Line? Long snapper? Bench is good 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugashane Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 2 hours ago, beardown3231 said: Bench is good Hopefully you mean a park bench. Space is limited on the sidelines. Lol. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted November 11, 2019 Author Share Posted November 11, 2019 Fixing the TE spot, -Release Adam Shaheen, totally worthless. -Release/IR Sowell -IR what is left of Burton -Continue to play Braunk and Holtz -Call Up Raymond and Horsted and give them reps. -If you depseratly need a veteran to run Burtons routes give some to Wims. He Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardown3231 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 (edited) Nagy was pretty quiet on what happened to Burton. All he said was "he had a calf and we'll monitor it." This is becoming quite common. Maybe they should monitor it by cutting his sorry a$$ Edited November 11, 2019 by beardown3231 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ_11 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Burton has something like $7.5m dead cap hit next season if we cut him, he's not going anywhere. Braunecker has flashed little bits in the passing game in his time, keep his reps on the up the rest of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G08 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 5 hours ago, RJ_11 said: Burton has something like $7.5m dead cap hit next season if we cut him, he's not going anywhere. Braunecker has flashed little bits in the passing game in his time, keep his reps on the up the rest of the season. Yep. That's a damned shame too. I cut Shaheen and look to upgrade at TE in FA for the draft. Sucks we are wasting serious money and draft capital on the position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted November 12, 2019 Author Share Posted November 12, 2019 3 hours ago, G08 said: Yep. That's a damned shame too. I cut Shaheen and look to upgrade at TE in FA for the draft. Sucks we are wasting serious money and draft capital on the position. Add it to Ryan Pace's list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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